Re:Ask HN: What's the best “open” phone that supports 5G?
by the_one_jay on Saturday February 26, 2022 @05:08PM
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Also the VPN in calyxos does not appear to be enabled by default. You don't have to use it if you don't trust it.
Re:Ask HN: What's the best “open” phone that supports 5G?
by the_one_jay on Saturday February 26, 2022 @05:06PM
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I like both projects and they both have their place. My understanding is:
-Calyxos is less secure but more usable day to day, since most apps work. -GrapheneOS is more secure but less usable day to day since major apps don't work.
Re:Ask HN: What's the best “open” phone that supports 5G?
by ThePowerOfFuet on Saturday February 26, 2022 @06:07PM
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Nearly every app I have tried to run on GrapheneOS has worked fine.
Re:Ask HN: What's the best “open” phone that supports 5G?
by quesomaster9000 on Saturday February 26, 2022 @06:16PM
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Yup, sandboxed google play works fine on graphene.
And everything is neatly locked into individual user profiles.
A 'secure OS' which comes with a built-in VPN doesn't sit well with me (CIA says, pls send all ur traffic over our 'uber secure' tunnel kthx kek), and it seems Calyx isn't as technically adept as Graphene when it comes to kernel & library level exploit mitigation techniques.
The history of GrapheneOS is quite funny btw, when it was called 'CopperheadOS' the actual dev mic-dropped and deleted the signing keys stating that the business guy was compromised. Remember, the business guy was making people physically send their phones to HQ so the OS image could be 'securely installed'.