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Re:Military gap between Russia and Ukraine by s1artibartfast on Saturday February 26, 2022 @10:39AM (#30478427)
Putin articulated his ultimatums for Kyiv: Recognize Crimea as Russian - Rejection of NATO accession - No weapons supplies from the West - LNR and DNR gain territory that the regions had pre 2014
Re:Military gap between Russia and Ukraine by XorNot on Saturday February 26, 2022 @04:39PM (#30482234)
Or, and this might be a wild idea, Russia could mind it's own god damn business in it's own god damn territory seeing as how 50% of that list is "respect our previous wars of aggression against your territory" and "don't join alliances which would've prevented our wars of aggression against your territory".

But the internet is rife with Russian shills at every turn right now.

Re:Military gap between Russia and Ukraine by s1artibartfast on Saturday February 26, 2022 @07:39PM (#30483937)
I'm sure the internet is rife with Russian shills, but there are also a number of non-interventionists who don't want to get whipped up into a war frenzy and get involved another foreign war.

I wish Russia and NATO/US could agree to a basic Neutrality and non-intervention treaty for Georgia and Ukraine.

Re:Military gap between Russia and Ukraine by XorNot on Saturday February 26, 2022 @09:14PM (#30484646)
Well golly gee, I guess the last 20 years of Ukraine not being in NATO was just too much of a risk. Nothing says "don't try and join NATO" like ongoingly and continually trying to invade and conquer a country because they're not a member of NATO.
Re:Military gap between Russia and Ukraine by s1artibartfast on Saturday February 26, 2022 @09:55PM (#30484907)
Hey, I wish we lived in a perfect world too. I really do, but countries have conflicting interests, and always put their security first. The first step in navigating the real world is understanding that things are not perfect, and trying to understand the motivations of others. Russia has an agenda, NATO has an agenda, and Ukraine has an agenda. The more people are in denial about this fact, the more suffering there will be.
Re:Military gap between Russia and Ukraine by XorNot on Sunday February 27, 2022 @01:20AM (#30485886)
The nefarious Ukrainian agenda of checks notes "continuing to exist as a sovereign democratic entity by the self-determination of its people".