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Re:You can have geothermal power everywhere if you drill dee... by pm90 on Saturday February 26, 2022 @03:03AM (#30475953)
Seismic disturbances are generally a concern for dense urban areas. It seems unlikely that agricultural areas would care that much.
Re:You can have geothermal power everywhere if you drill dee... by topspin on Saturday February 26, 2022 @03:15AM (#30476013)
Is there any conceivable burden urbanites don't imagine the people and land outside urban areas can tolerate?

We don't live in grass yurts you know. Bridges and dams are a thing. Earthquakes are a problem. Deep fracking operations have demonstrated this already.

Re:You can have geothermal power everywhere if you drill dee... by re6fae5Wied5tha on Saturday February 26, 2022 @04:02AM (#30476221)
> Is there any conceivable burden urbanites don't imagine the people and land outside urban areas can tolerate?

The burden of wealth.

Re:You can have geothermal power everywhere if you drill dee... by eru on Saturday February 26, 2022 @08:23AM (#30477316)
Huh? Read my comment. I did not suggest there are no building in non-urban areas. Just fewer, and thus it would be less expensive to make them earthquake proof.

Japan deals with natural earthquakes all the time. Earthquakes stronger than whatever a bit of geothermal energy production would produce.

Re:You can have geothermal power everywhere if you drill dee... by masklinn on Saturday February 26, 2022 @10:19AM (#30478221)
Because Japan deals with natural earthquakes all the time, japan has quake-safety standards. They were written in blood, and don’t exist in places which don’t routinely have earthquakes, because quake safety is constraining and expensive.

Retrofitting an entire country for quake safety because you’ve decided to create artificial earthquakes is inane.

Re:You can have geothermal power everywhere if you drill dee... by eru on Saturday February 26, 2022 @10:42AM (#30478459)
Who suggested an entire country? We are talking about small-ish areas.
Re:You can have geothermal power everywhere if you drill dee... by masklinn on Saturday February 26, 2022 @12:49PM (#30479845)
You have literally no idea how wide the geological destabilisation would reach.
Re:You can have geothermal power everywhere if you drill dee... by eru on Sunday February 27, 2022 @09:38PM (#30495674)
Given the example quoted, not all that far. One article talked about Strasbourg having some minor wobbles, not the entire region. They would have surely seized on the sensationalism of reporting a wider impact.

Of course, there's no clear border. Wobbles will be biggest at the epicentre and get smaller further out.

In any case, you just do the actuarial math, and figure out how much it would cost to wobble-prove buildings in the area in question, and stick that into your cost benefit analysis. It's not like other forms of energy generation are completely without downsides either.

Re:You can have geothermal power everywhere if you drill dee... by pm90 on Saturday February 26, 2022 @06:47AM (#30476828)
> We don't live in grass yurts you know. Bridges and dams are a thing. Earthquakes are a problem. Deep fracking operations have demonstrated this already.

What percentage of rural areas are situated in close proximity to large dams and bridges?

Re:You can have geothermal power everywhere if you drill dee... by masklinn on Saturday February 26, 2022 @10:21AM (#30478236)
Your statement is unclear, are you saying it doesn’t matter if dams and bridges get destroyed, or that it doesn’t matter if rural habitations get destroyed as long as they’re not destroyed near infrastructure?
Re:You can have geothermal power everywhere if you drill dee... by pm90 on Saturday February 26, 2022 @03:14PM (#30481434)
It’s perfectly clear if you read it without trying to be deliberately obtuse.
Re:You can have geothermal power everywhere if you drill dee... by wongarsu on Saturday February 26, 2022 @06:03AM (#30476656)
In Germany you will be hard-pressed to find a place more than 10km/6mi from the nearest village with more than 500 inhabitants. Those people don't like earthquakes or cracked buildings either. Same thing in England.
Re:You can have geothermal power everywhere if you drill dee... by eru on Saturday February 26, 2022 @08:25AM (#30477338)
Pay to earthquake proof their building and give them a bit of extra money on top. It's not that hard. Have a sort of auction to see who in the vicinity it willing to accept the geothermal plant for the cheapest.

Keep in mind that Germany has plenty of open pit lignite mines. Like eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Schleenhain_coal_mine

The disruption from geothermal is minuscule by comparison.

Re:You can have geothermal power everywhere if you drill dee... by numpad0 on Saturday February 26, 2022 @03:39AM (#30476117)
Agriculture relies on stable water supply…
Re:You can have geothermal power everywhere if you drill dee... by hutzlibu on Saturday February 26, 2022 @04:37AM (#30476350)
"It seems unlikely that agricultural areas would care that much."

Why would you think that? Because the peasants are all too stupid to notice an earthquake that damage their houses?

Sure, fewer people would be affected, than in a dense city, but the problem solution of: out of sight, out of mind, is fascinating.

Re:You can have geothermal power everywhere if you drill dee... by eru on Saturday February 26, 2022 @08:26AM (#30477343)
You know that you can earthquake proof buildings?

Offer to do that plus a bit of extra money on top, and you'll find plenty of rural takers. Pick the cheapest bidder.

Re:You can have geothermal power everywhere if you drill dee... by hutzlibu on Saturday February 26, 2022 @09:03AM (#30477627)
There surely are various solutions and it is also a solution to shift side effects to areas where fewer people are affected (and more easily compensated) - but the tone of that statement above was "who cares for rural areas" at least I read it like this, because why else would rural people not care about it?
Re:You can have geothermal power everywhere if you drill dee... by eru on Sunday February 27, 2022 @09:42PM (#30495706)
Which statement are you referring to?

I do agree with the commenter who said that we don't need to earthquake proof agricultural land itself. Especially not against minor wobbles. Fields just lie there.

(Just to avoid confusion: any buildings close to agricultural land need to be considered, of course. I am talking purely about the fields.)

Re:You can have geothermal power everywhere if you drill dee... by pm90 on Saturday February 26, 2022 @06:39AM (#30476803)
> Why would you think that? Because the peasants are all too stupid to notice an earthquake that damage their houses?

Yes, exactly. I also don’t expect dense residential buildings prone to earthquakes to be prevalent in low density sparsely populated agricultural areas.

There is nothing “fascinating” except that stating facts about rural areas immediately brings out the worst kinds of trolls out of the woodwork.