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Re:World’s first octopus farm stirs ethical debate by shanusmagnus on Friday February 25, 2022 @07:27AM (#30466558)
Greater intelligence allows greater introspection, prediction, rumination; allows one to build a model of self and environment not possible at lower intelligence. The suffering that is possible when you can anticipate your death, or imagine a hopeless future, turns otherwise neutral situations into hells.
Re:World’s first octopus farm stirs ethical debate by sweetheart on Friday February 25, 2022 @08:33AM (#30467044)
This is a double edged sword: an animal that is incapable of imagining a hopeless future may also be incapable of understanding that certain terrors it faces are temporary, and thus may live in anguish much more as it has a poorer mental model of its own situation.
Re:World’s first octopus farm stirs ethical debate by kuhewa on Friday February 25, 2022 @04:18PM (#30472488)
This is true, for example I've handled both captive and wild animals naive to humans from the same species (for conservation related research). The captive ones are a bit feisty, but the wild ones are so terrified they are basically in shock and won't move.