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Re:Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia by idkwhoiam on Friday February 25, 2022 @05:59AM (#30465914)
> No NATO state will enter into this conflict, Putin has been pretty openly threatening with nuclear annihilation This basically means 2 things: 1. NATO is dead. 2. Putin is free to do whatever he wants wherever he chooses.
Re:Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia by thomaslangston on Friday February 25, 2022 @08:11AM (#30466853)
Neither of those points follow from the premise.

NATO's mission has always been mutual defense of members. Ukraine is not a member.

The threat of Russian nuclear weapons has been more poignant in the past than today. Neither of your conclusions was true before.

Re:Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia by idkwhoiam on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:43AM (#30467778)
"Ukraine made the decision to completely denuclearize. In exchange, the U.S., the U.K. and Russia would guarantee Ukraine's security in a 1994 agreement known as the Budapest Memorandum." [0]

We can see this security guarantee in action right now. Same will happen with NATO's mutual defense guarantee.

[0] https://www.npr.org/2022/02/21/1082124528/ukraine-russia-put...

Re:Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia by servercobra on Friday February 25, 2022 @08:17AM (#30466907)
I don’t know how that means NATO is dead. Ukraine is (unfortunately for them at this moment) not a part of NATO, so the response is different. If Russia continues and invades Lithuania, etc, the rest of the countries are obligated to defend it.