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Re:Understanding the War in Ukraine by agumonkey on Friday February 25, 2022 @04:37AM (#30465388)
I saw this on reddit too, it is true that a lot of main countries lied their ways into wars in the past. Here were my few points:

    Hussein was actually a dictator (zelensky is .. so far .. not)

    US underlying reason was more access to oil than increasing territory, it stays at the economical layer.

    US freedom narrative was easier to swallow than Putin's (less poisoning of opponents, less nuclear threats)

    Russia feels more corrupted and dictatorial than US ? (a bit like the point above)
Re:Understanding the War in Ukraine by Helmut10001 on Friday February 25, 2022 @05:03AM (#30465560)
Hard to get any objective evaluations, but yes - anyone who would argue against your points is too far in for conspiracy theories to argue with at all.
Re:Understanding the War in Ukraine by agumonkey on Friday February 25, 2022 @05:18AM (#30465658)
Yeah objectivity is a subtle idea right now.

We need a plan now.