Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces

Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by joshuamorton on Friday February 25, 2022 @12:06AM (#30463897)

Sure, but the estimate there isn't "we don't restore the grid within a year" it's "the entire grid stays off for more than a year" (the whole thing is completely unrecoverable). As far as I know, your average transmission line or transformer isn't going to be broken, so the issue would be primarily power production and things that use electricity (computers etc.). We wouldn't need to restring powerlines except in places actually hit by blast waves, and the grid wouldn't be "destroyed".

(and it should be further noted that this conclusion was that the US carrying capacity for life would decrease to 30m sustained by like subsistence agriculture. I expect that those deaths of hundreds of millions would be over decades, not quickly, and I really really doubt that we'd be unable to recover more than some of our agricultural capacity in a decade)

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Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by btilly on Friday February 25, 2022 @01:38PM (#30470573)

There is an open debate about the likely damage done by power surges along long-distance power lines. Industry funded research claims that they should survive both EMP and major solar storms. Real world experience suggests that they are overconfident.

See https://chris-said.io/2020/06/18/everything-ive-learned-abou...

Regardless of which side you believe, it is clear that any "worst case scenario" should include the possibility of an EMP attack that actually does take out the power grid.

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Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by Retric on Friday February 25, 2022 @02:35PM (#30471294)

That blog post is making a fundamental error, taking down the power grid isn’t the same as taking it out.

Things are setup to fail safe which preserves equipment but defaults to turning everything off. Getting significant parts of the grid up again should take days even if your stuck with rolling blackouts for years.

Further, EMP isn’t a magic wand that instantly destroys all electronics, there is a huge range of sensitivity not just based on type of equipment but also if it’s running and the orientation it’s in. Taking out farm equipment that’s off is really difficult. The actual nukes are a much larger threat.

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Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by Teever on Friday February 25, 2022 @12:36AM (#30464034)

I hope you're right.

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