Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces
by lmm on Thursday February 24, 2022 @10:44PM
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> I hope this doesn't sound flippant or taking light of Russia's actions because it's not intended to be. But what is the decision process behind supporting a choice to start sending other people to kill and die for your desired outcome here?
You've got to draw the line somewhere. If an offensive war like this passes, no-one is safe.
> And do you also believe wars should be initiated against China to liberate Uyghur and Tibet, against North Korea to stop the human rights abuses there, against Afghanistan again to put the previous regime back in power, etc.?
Launching an invasion no, at least not without a very clear UN-like process that gives them multiple opportunities to back down.
> I mean what point do you say okay we need to go in shooting, and would you still believe that if you were to be the first on the beach with a rifle?
Whether I'd have the balls is another question entirely, but I absolutely do believe it. This is not subtle, this is not limited, this is war. If we were talking about unmarked "volunteers" in the "independent states" that Russia recognised a few days ago, you might reasonably argue for a more limited response. But when we have Russian regulars shooting in Kyiv, that is absolutely on the wrong side of anywhere the line can possibly be drawn, unless you're ready to start speaking Russian.
You've got to draw the line somewhere. If an offensive war like this passes, no-one is safe.
> And do you also believe wars should be initiated against China to liberate Uyghur and Tibet, against North Korea to stop the human rights abuses there, against Afghanistan again to put the previous regime back in power, etc.?
Launching an invasion no, at least not without a very clear UN-like process that gives them multiple opportunities to back down.
> I mean what point do you say okay we need to go in shooting, and would you still believe that if you were to be the first on the beach with a rifle?
Whether I'd have the balls is another question entirely, but I absolutely do believe it. This is not subtle, this is not limited, this is war. If we were talking about unmarked "volunteers" in the "independent states" that Russia recognised a few days ago, you might reasonably argue for a more limited response. But when we have Russian regulars shooting in Kyiv, that is absolutely on the wrong side of anywhere the line can possibly be drawn, unless you're ready to start speaking Russian.