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Re:World’s first octopus farm stirs ethical debate by challenger-derp on Thursday February 24, 2022 @09:41PM (#30463157)
Another perspective: people are not indifferent to the set of ethics their community subscribes to. Ethics help form a common understanding about what it means to be a part of a community. Sure, morality is constructed and observable choices matter more. But morality is an aspect that separates humans from "beasts". Ditch morality and some get that much closer to considering atrocities -- e.g. enslavement of weaker groups, authoritarianism over entire populations -- because after all, "the universe is indifferent to your ethics [...]".

> why not a draw a line here, or over there, or instead way out there?

Do people who are sensitive to/ take into consideration the pains of weaker beings sound/feel like a pleasant group to be a part of? And yes, there are trade-offs.

Re:World’s first octopus farm stirs ethical debate by rectang on Thursday February 24, 2022 @09:56PM (#30463244)
> But morality is an aspect that separates humans from "beasts".

Over the course of human history, claims of moral superiority habitually accompany great atrocities. Give me a humble ethics which seeks to change that which can be observed, while not claiming absolute righteousness.