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Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by kidme5 on Thursday February 24, 2022 @09:24PM (#30463043)
Actually interception happens at the boost phase (upon launch) with these systems, so decoys are not possible unless you literally launch multiple rockets.
Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by bb88 on Thursday February 24, 2022 @09:33PM (#30463113)
You mean the new systems? THAAD is re-entry or terminal phase. And decoys still exist in the midcourse phase.

Wikipedia's definitions are what I understand about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missile_defense#Mid-course_pha...

With boost phase you have around 180 seconds to see it and to react to it.

Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by kidme5 on Thursday February 24, 2022 @09:40PM (#30463152)
No, space-based.. Like Brilliant Pebbles. It's why Space Force is a big deal.
Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by hef19898 on Friday February 25, 2022 @02:12AM (#30464483)
Oh, so we think putting arms in space is a good idea now? there is a treaty against that, because if we accept that, anyone who is able to get objects into space can do some of the following:

- Park nukes in space -> no launch, you just drop them on your enemy - Tungsten rods -> put a couple of tungsten rods into a launch satellite and have them rain down from space on your enemy

Not sure that this is such a good idea.

Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by nradov on Friday February 25, 2022 @03:05AM (#30464770)
At this point it's just a concept. There's nothing being actively developed.

Putting nukes or tungsten rods in space wouldn't accomplish much. You can't just "drop" an object from orbit. Instead you need to conduct a burn to de-orbit and head toward the target. So it doesn't save much time compared to hitting the target directly with a missile launched from Earth. Launch satellites themselves would be vulnerable to anti-satellite defenses so they would be shot down early in any major conflict. And nuclear weapons can't be left unattended indefinitely; they require maintenance at least every few years in order to operate reliably.

Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by Johnny555 on Friday February 25, 2022 @02:13AM (#30464488)
That seems like a problem in itself, it needs to be on a hair trigger to fire soon enough to catch a weapon soon after launch. Sure would be bad to accidentally shoot down an unannounced manned rocket launch after the software thought it was a nuclear launch.
Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by bb88 on Friday February 25, 2022 @05:44PM (#30473293)
That's the problem decision time is so short.

Missile defense is as it exists today is not a deterrent.

Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by arc-in-space on Friday February 25, 2022 @03:45AM (#30465033)
Well, I think the equilibrium here is that, all civilian rocket launches should be announced, not the worst outcome. Isn't this already the case?
Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by Johnny555 on Friday February 25, 2022 @11:54AM (#30469299)
Oh, so as long as the humans in every country that announce the rocket launches and the humans that enter known launches into missile defense systems do their jobs perfectly every single time, then everything will be ok.
Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by bb88 on Friday February 25, 2022 @05:48PM (#30473328)
It is the case, but aren't you then trusting your enemy to be honest? It would allow at least one warhead to get through the boost phase.
Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by sterlind on Friday February 25, 2022 @04:34AM (#30465364)
this got miscommunicated once and led to Boris Yeltsin opening the nuclear football and weighing launch orders when the call came in that it was actually a Norwegian sounding rocket, not a surprise Arctic first strike.