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Re:The Curious Life and Mind-Altering Death of Justin Clark by briHass on Thursday February 24, 2022 @09:02AM (#30454744)
That's a strange technicality to get hung up on. "Hallucinogens" are perhaps a broad class of psychotropic drugs, of which dissociative anesthetics are a part. A laptop is still a computer.

From Wikipedia's definition: "A hallucinogen is a psychoactive agent that often or ordinarily causes hallucinations, perceptual anomalies, and other substantial subjective changes in thought, emotion, and consciousness that are not typically experienced to such degrees with other drug classifications."

The traditional dissociatives definitely would classify as changing your thoughts and consciousness.

Re:The Curious Life and Mind-Altering Death of Justin Clark by netizen-936824 on Thursday February 24, 2022 @10:21AM (#30455682)
>changing your thoughts and consciousness

This is extremely broad, in that case cigarettes are hallucinogens. Nicotine is a psychoactive substance, it absolutely alters though patterns and consciousness.

>often or ordinarily causes hallucinations, perceptual anomalies, and other substantial subjective changes in thought, emotion, and consciousness that are not typically experienced to such degrees with other drug classifications

I think you left out an important part of the stated definition, this also says "and" rather than "or". I think that "dissociative" is a more accurate classification the the compounds' primary effects seen at the majority of doses.

I mention in another comment in this thread why I think it is a poor classification, please refer to that message for my argument.