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Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by csee on Thursday February 24, 2022 @12:23AM (#30450682)
Half of Russia supports an invasion. A minority is opposed. Was a poll
Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by thatguy0900 on Thursday February 24, 2022 @12:42AM (#30450862)
Russia is a state that actively dissapears dissenters. I'm not sure how much you can trust polls.
Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by forlorn on Thursday February 24, 2022 @12:30AM (#30450750)
These are laughable numbers, trust me. It's the opposite in reality.
Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by agumonkey on Thursday February 24, 2022 @12:57AM (#30450995)
You mean propaganda plus fear of being arrested if speaking against the king ?
Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by unityByFreedom on Thursday February 24, 2022 @12:39AM (#30450835)
I can't imagine anyone excited over warring with so near a place where so many families are connected. Also the two accounts above you are new.
Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by murkt on Thursday February 24, 2022 @12:39AM (#30450831)
Reality? We’ll see if there will be any demonstrations in Russia against the war in this reality.
Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by unityByFreedom on Thursday February 24, 2022 @12:41AM (#30450850)
Does anyone wish for or expect that? We saw people go up against tanks during the fall of the soviet union, but it's rare. If Russian people have such a mindset it should be entirely their own decision. Let's not speculate.
Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by suigetsusake on Thursday February 24, 2022 @03:11AM (#30452076)
Those numbers seems to come from this CNN poll[0] with 1000 people of each country being asked the questions

[0] https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2022/02/europe/russia-uk...

Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by jusssi on Thursday February 24, 2022 @02:03AM (#30451533)
I wonder if it's the half who have no risk of getting conscripted into implementing that invasion. I wouldn't be surprised if it was.
Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by gdy on Thursday February 24, 2022 @12:56AM (#30450978)
That was a poll about protecting Donetsk and Luhansk, I believe.
Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by mort96 on Thursday February 24, 2022 @05:45AM (#30453235)
"Protecting Donetsk and Luhansk" literally means sending troops into Ukrainian territory to fight against the Ukrainian military. That's called an invasion.

EDIT: though the wording might still be significant. If the question is worded "Should Russia support the sovereign, Russia-aligned republics of Donetsk and Luhansk", that might poll significantly differently from a question that's worded "Should Russia invade Ukraine" even though both mean the same thing. Just like how >50% of Americans answer "no" to the question of "Should schools in America teach Arabic Numerals" because they're misled by the question, not because they're opposed to teaching people about numbers.

Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by denton-scratch on Thursday February 24, 2022 @09:45AM (#30455289)
> even though both mean the same thing

Donetsk and Luhansk have declared independence, and Russia has recognised them. Secession is not a new phenomenon; Texas seceded from Mexico. Several regions seceded from the former Yugoslavia, and were rapidly recognised (and reinforced militarily) by western countries.

I think it's perfectly legitimate to argue that Russia is not invading Ukraine, but rather supporting the Donbas republics. I mean, I don't agree; and I think there's a fair chance that Russia will invade Ukraine, and install a puppet. But they haven't done it yet. I suspect that for the next few weeks, they'll restrict themselves to air and missile attacks on Ukrainian military installations, with troops-on-the-ground restricted to Donbas.

Beyond a few weeks, who's to say? No plan survives first contact with the enemy.

Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by denton-scratch on Thursday February 24, 2022 @07:11PM (#30462149)
With the benefit of a couple of hours of hindsight, I obviously read it wrong :-( It seems to be an invasion.
Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by 0x38B on Thursday February 24, 2022 @06:43AM (#30453631)
And that's what the invasion is being called in headlines on Russian news - "operation to protect Donbas" [1].

1: https://lenta.ru/news/2022/02/24/nonazi/