Re:Explosions in Kiev and Kharkiv now [CNN]
by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Thursday February 24, 2022 @11:22AM
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> I am for keeping Ukraine as a neutral buffer separating Russia and the US.
What does Ukraine want?
Re:Explosions in Kiev and Kharkiv now [CNN]
by warner_of_doom on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @01:37AM
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You may think that this is a 'smart' or 'moral' question. But, it really isn't.
What did Austria want?
To be left alone so that it doesn't suffer casualties.
That's what Ukraine wanted, but we pushed them into non-neutrality and anti-Russia.
Re:Explosions in Kiev and Kharkiv now [CNN]
by warner_of_doom on Thursday February 24, 2022 @11:59AM
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Contrary to popular belief, that is only a small consideration in geostrategic security politics.
I am for keeping Ukraine as a neutral buffer separating Russia and the US.
NATO proposed Ukrainian and Georgian membership of NATO in 2005-2008, in the clear knowledge that this would destabilize the situation.
France, Germany, and others were against this. The proposal began the issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJBQikfYyKs
We then openly backed the 2014 putsch in Kiev, an open act of aggression just as irresponsible as a military incursion. CIA John Brennan, Senator John McCain, and Diplomat Victoria Nuland were there in Ukraine when Yanukovych was being overthrown. There is also evidence to show that we were involved through NGOs in overthrowing and promoting an atmosphere desiring the overthrow of Yanukovych.