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Re:Convoy Crackdown – power to freeze bank accounts without ... by lupire on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @04:55PM (#30434461)
You are saying that politics would be easier if everyone shared your values. OK. Whose calues should we pick? How to decide? What do we do with people who disagree?
Re:Convoy Crackdown – power to freeze bank accounts without ... by robbedpeter on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @10:49PM (#30437357)
I don't care what your values are, just that we should find some sort of common ground if we want to maintain and improve the country, or world, we find ourselves sharing.

The principles don't have to be mine, and they don't need to be political, even. It's even possible with something silly... "America has the best fucking apples on the planet, and we're goddamn proud of that. Everything we strive and suffer for is for the best goddamn apple pie in human history, and if you wanna take that, you can pry it from our cold dead hands. "

Right now, we're socially fractured in every way possible to fracture under the threshold of combat, and even that is failing in some places.

We better figure out what it means to be American before there's no point to it, or before it fails so badly that continuing as an American means fatally corrupting any principles or ideals we claim to hold.

There are ideas for seasteads and crypto-nations that I find compelling, but I'm not a utopian. I think the Constitution is something admirable and the ideals are structurally important for any notion of liberty going forward in history. I hope that America finds its way back to some sort of cohesion but I don't see any paths toward anything resembling unity.