Re:Germany shelves Nord Stream 2 pipeline
by AndyMcConachie on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @11:01AM
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Don't know why you got downvoted. All these Americans in this thread can have all the opinions they want. They're not getting screwed by high gas prices right now.
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Re:Germany shelves Nord Stream 2 pipeline
by oytis on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @12:11PM
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Not everyone in Europe is in a comfortable position where they can care about gas prices more than they care about Russian expansion.
Re:Germany shelves Nord Stream 2 pipeline
by CRConrad on Wednesday February 23, 2022 @08:39AM
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> Not everyone in Europe is in a comfortable position where they can care about gas prices more than they care about Russian expansion.
OTOH, not everyone in Europe is in a comfortable position where they can care about Russian expansion more than they care about heating their home.
Pretty much everyone actually. What is the worst consequence of not being able to pay for the heating? In the very extreme case, which could affect a tiny minority of the poorest people, you get broke, and have to apply for welfare. Maybe you'll have to use electric heating and/or wear warm clothes inside for a while. That's about it - nothing comparable to what Ukrainians have to endure.
Re:Germany shelves Nord Stream 2 pipeline
by stjohnswarts on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @02:48PM
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It's a global market, we get hit by high gas prices too. Almost half of Europeans gas prices are fuel taxes anyway. Talk your governments into backing off those for a while.
Re:Germany shelves Nord Stream 2 pipeline
by mercutio2 on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @12:29PM
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Gas prices are extremely high for Americans this year, also.
But it’s true that Russia isn’t a driving force in that.
Re:Germany shelves Nord Stream 2 pipeline
by stjohnswarts on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @02:49PM
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Gas/fuel prices are a global commodity, of course the Ukraine conflict will affect Americans, not as much as Europe, but Americans will get a lot of it as well. The middle east is probably loving the influx of income.
Re:Germany shelves Nord Stream 2 pipeline
by mercutio2 on Wednesday February 23, 2022 @11:32AM
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Gas in this case means methane, right?
While it’s technically true that there’s shipping of LNG outside of pipelines, my impression is that the market for methane isn’t currently very global.
My point was that the resurgence of economies and cold winters has driven up US methane prices to 2-2.5x where they were a year ago.
I was specifically responding to a commenter implying Americans aren’t experiencing difficulty paying for heating this year.
How much higher are German rates for methane?