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Re:A Vicious Cycle: The Dangerous Dehumanisation of Cyclists by globular-toast on Monday February 21, 2022 @09:43AM (#30416390)
The Idaho Stop doesn't mean you blast through red. You stop. Then proceed through if it's safe. This would be about as dangerous as accidentally walking into someone on the pavement.

There are idiots with no regard to others' safety everywhere, unfortunately. I'd rather they were riding bikes than driving cars.

I'm not sure if pedestrians are more vulnerable than cyclists. Maybe marginally if the cyclist is wearing a helmet but they are both essentially as vulnerable as you can be.

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Re:A Vicious Cycle: The Dangerous Dehumanisation of Cyclists by KaiserPro on Monday February 21, 2022 @10:30AM (#30416918)
> The Idaho Stop doesn't mean you blast through red. You stop.

Aha, this make much more sense!

> Maybe marginally if the cyclist is wearing a helmet but they are both essentially as vulnerable as you can be.

Its more the point of impact, the pedestrian gets hit by the handlebars which are small and pointy. The cyclist will normally get cushioned by the pedestrian.

However I suspect that numbers and collisions are tightly coupled to country. the pavement layouts are different.

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