Neural nets are not “slightly conscious,” and AI PR can do with less hype

Re:Neural nets are not “slightly conscious,” and AI PR can d... by OJFord on Sunday February 20, 2022 @05:49PM (#30410023)

(in an ironic demonstration of what I mean) I'm not sure I understand what you're saying - but is it that you can only call a process 'thinking' if it's producing some output that's not derivable from its input, nor hard-coded in the definition of the function, as it were?

Perhaps that's way off, I was just starting to think along those lines as I came to your comment, and it seemed it might fit, that we might be thinking along the same lines.

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Re:Neural nets are not “slightly conscious,” and AI PR can d... by freemint on Sunday February 20, 2022 @06:41PM (#30410356)

Just as dried up Tardigrades are not alive (reintroduced into an environment in which they can survive) Artificial Intelligence which runs decoupled from any notion of time and whos weights are frozen or changed without it being able to influence or understand the outcomes will not be able to derive a theory of mind about itself. Even if it did since it does contributes little to it's own objective regularization will remove these features. As ANN are trained today most architectures are dried up Tardigrades which get watered, dried&reset into the previous configuration during inference.

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