Re:Why Vladimir Putin and his entourage want war
by consp on Sunday February 20, 2022 @10:03AM
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While I agree with that premise, it is good to point out the NATO troops in Poland and the Baltic countries and weapon shipments to Ukraine is a thing. Though I doubt this is at the same scale, and we as simple people have no way to verify any of this and people generally trust the propaganda on whichever side they are on.
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Re:Why Vladimir Putin and his entourage want war
by ptr on Sunday February 20, 2022 @10:26AM
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NATO troops and weapon shipments to Ukraine became a thing after Russia started threatening Ukraine's existence -- we want to help the Ukrainian people.
We as "simple" people can decide whether we trust people like Putin or people like Biden.
Re:Why Vladimir Putin and his entourage want war
by elzbardico on Sunday February 20, 2022 @11:10AM
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No. It is not. The pressure for Ukraine to join NATO has been simmering for decades before the west financed a coup to put literal nazis in power in Ukraine.
Don't believe this kindergarten geopolitics they fed your people to ensure you'll be happy to send kids to die to enrich the military industrial complex
Re:Why Vladimir Putin and his entourage want war
by dragonwriter on Sunday February 20, 2022 @11:20AM
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> Don't believe this kindergarten geopolitics they fed your people to ensure you'll be happy to send kids to die to enrich the military industrial complex
This is kind of weird given that NATO propaganda right now is justifying the absence of intervention—making the case that despite the illegality of current Russian action and the potential expanded invasion, Ukraine might get aid but essentially must be written off because the alternative is a World War—whereas it is Russian propaganda that is justifying war.
Like, of NATO wanted to send the kids from NATO countries to die to enrich the military-industrial complex, they really ought to get their propagandists to stop working against their own goal.
Re:Why Vladimir Putin and his entourage want war
by elzbardico on Monday February 21, 2022 @07:18AM
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Of course, the pressure come from the US, which has proven in the last decades to resort to this kind of propaganda blitz before they embark in another unjustified military adventure.
This is another "OMG!!!! WMDs in Iraq". And as always the American media does its part in manufacturing consent for a war that nobody needs now.
Make no mistake, the US government is the aggressor here.
Re:Why Vladimir Putin and his entourage want war
by jacquesm on Monday February 28, 2022 @09:43AM
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Re:Why Vladimir Putin and his entourage want war
by nathanaldensr on Sunday February 20, 2022 @11:16AM
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Or neither.