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Re:How much do construction costs matter to the price of hou... by mistrial9 on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @07:49PM (#30368129)
my un-schooled guess is simple - the rest of the industrialized world has benefited from profit markups in real dollars of today - that fun book or skateboard was priced in modern terms.. while lumber is a commodity from the previous century or three.. their dollars and costs were low to start with, and were pressed down by commodity markets.

I once asked a recent undergrad in Economics graduate, at a party, why one pound of bread costs more than one pound of meat (the inputs and processing costs are vastly different, through the life of the animal, the meat should be way, way more) but, blank stare, more beer.

I for one believe that most of the markets, most of the time, make no sense at all from the perspective of the real natural inputs, and all the sense in the world from the point of view of one human group selling things to another human group, any way they can; old timber included.

Re:How much do construction costs matter to the price of hou... by AlanSE on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @11:06PM (#30369414)
Bread doesn't seem like the best example here, because the finished product is not dense, can't be smushed, and has to get shipped to the store. Transport plus the shelf space (and rotation) can explain most of the price.

If you look at pure flour, rice, beans, pasta, and stuff like that, there are lots of cases where it drops from prepared-foods price down to something closer to its commodity value. Looking up rice, it goes for $14/c.w.t., which I think translates to a little over $0.10 per pound. You can't buy it at that price, but you can buy a literal 1 lb bag of the bad rice for $1.00. Consider larger quantities and you'll probably see an asymptote to a reasonable multiple times the commodity value.

Meat will not follow those rules. The floor for meat is much higher due to the physical inefficiency of production. Even at that higher price floor, there are huge untaxed externalities. A lot of people know the reality that we have to eat a lot less meat due to halt climate change. I think there is a strong business and social culture for businesses to move meat at close to its price floor, with business models like fast food.

Re:How much do construction costs matter to the price of hou... by kevin_thibedeau on Thursday February 17, 2022 @05:03AM (#30371409)
Bread is easily produced locally or regionally from bulk materials. Processed meats are shipped hundreds and thousands of miles to the consumer.
Re:How much do construction costs matter to the price of hou... by mistrial9 on Thursday February 17, 2022 @11:51AM (#30375310)
as a consumer, I will walk to the corner store here in the California city, and I will check the price of a loaf of ordinary bread, and the price of a pound of ordinary meat, again today or tomorrow. Not "the cheapest rice by the ten pound bag" .. or "chicken parts whole in a ten pound bag" I believe my point stands.. yes, there are layers in the consumer markets.. times one hundred for a fast food meal, too.
Re:How much do construction costs matter to the price of hou... by jefftk on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @10:53PM (#30369350)
A pound of the cheapest bread here is $0.86. The cheapest meat (bone in chicken) is about double that.
Re:How much do construction costs matter to the price of hou... by aperson_hello on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @11:08PM (#30369421)
Here, it's about the same cost ($0.86) for both the bread and the chicken (whole chicken - or even cheaper for leg quarters)
Re:How much do construction costs matter to the price of hou... by rmah on Friday February 18, 2022 @06:04PM (#30392352)
Where is a pound of meat cheaper than a pound of bread?

Either way, no offense, but your economics grad needs to re-take some basic classes. To simplify, input costs only establish a floor on prices. Otherwise, prices are set by dynamic market supply/demand curves.