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Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by gruez on Monday February 14, 2022 @07:45PM (#30340939)
Translation: "If it's for a Just Cause, then anything goes. If it's for a Unjust Cause, then we should arrest you at the slightest infraction of the law and punish you to the fullest extent of the law".
Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by jsjsbdkj on Monday February 14, 2022 @08:30PM (#30341373)
This is hilariously backwards. Black protestors in Ottawa are arrested all the time. These people have been paralyzing a massive part of downtown and violating the law for 3 weeks and they're finally now seeing some consequences.

Also, yes, some protests are moral and some aren't. If there's a Nazi march shutting down main street I have no objections to shutting it down. It's not logically inconsistent to say that people shitting in the streets, having drunken discos and harassing people day and night aren't really "protesting" at this point.

Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by gruez on Monday February 14, 2022 @08:42PM (#30341481)
>This is hilariously backwards. Black protestors in Ottawa are arrested all the time.

I was making fun of the parent poster's normative theories, not describing how police in ottawa actually behave.

>These people have been paralyzing a massive part of downtown and violating the law for 3 weeks and they're finally now seeing some consequences.

I'm sure you could say the same for hong kong protesters. I'm going to go on a limb that flooding the entire island with millions of protesters is pretty "paralyzing", if not more.

>Also, yes, some protests are moral and some aren't. If there's a Nazi march shutting down main street I have no objections to shutting it down.

Sounds like you're agreeing with my previous comment?

>It's not logically inconsistent to say that people shitting in the streets, having drunken discos and harassing people day and night aren't really "protesting" at this point.

that sounds awfully like the CHAZ.

Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by refurb on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @02:28AM (#30343734)
I have family who live in an authoritarian dictatorship and there is a lot of news coverage of Trudeau's decision - why? Because they parade it around as "evidence that allowing protest is dangerous to a countries stability" and "see what hypocrites the so-called democracies are?"

And the next time farmers protest because their land is being taken away and given to multinational corporations, they crackdown and say "see? we're just like Canada, these people are criminals and we need to restore order".

Being admired by thuggish dictatorships doesn't exactly reflect well on Canada.

Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by bregma on Monday February 14, 2022 @09:31PM (#30341918)
Justice means appropriate measures for relevant actions. Not wanting to take responsibility for your own decisions like these truckers is a far cry from being repressed and abused because you look like someone the men who control the money don't like. The tolerable level of their civil disobedience should be commensurate with the severity and legitimacy of their complaint.
Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by maigret on Monday February 14, 2022 @08:31PM (#30341378)
So all causes are equal? Is it bad to apply informed judgement on society issues? If you go by that, then the US revolution should have been a bad and illegal thing.
Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by gruez on Monday February 14, 2022 @08:49PM (#30341542)
>So all causes are equal? Is it bad to apply informed judgement on society issues?

Are all speech created equal? Is it bad to apply informed judgement on society issues? I mean, why do we want Bad Speech to proliferate? The government should ensure only Good Speech is allowed!

>If you go by that, then the US revolution should have been a bad and illegal thing.

"all causes are equal" =/= "all causes are a bad and illegal thing".

Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by halostatue on Monday February 14, 2022 @10:42PM (#30342490)
In Canada, there _is_ permitted prior restraint on hate speech. The American view on "unrestricted" free speech is an anomaly.