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Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y... by godelski on Monday February 14, 2022 @02:57PM (#30337401)
For an average person, I think this argument is fine. But we're on HN where we can discuss something with a bit more nuance. There's two major things that I see that FF offers that Chrome doesn't, including chromium alternatives. 1) More privacy. Chrome tracks you substantially more than alternative browsers. In addition to that, is simply the chrome ecosystem, see next point. 2) Chrome's dominance defines the web. A decentralized service doesn't become centralized once one player takes 100% of the users. It happens long before because a big player can throw their weight around and force others to do what they want. Chrome already acts this way. We talk about this extensively several times a year here, so I'll let others state this argument better. But the short is that Google can define protocols, more tracking analytics, etc.

It really comes down to two things.

- Do you want to encourage more privacy across the web?

- Do you want the web to be more decentralized?

If you want more privacy and less centralization, you should use FF. I don't think it is just about the services that they offer. I think we can go deeper and talk about the future of the web in general and how our choices affect that.

Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y... by selfhoster11 on Monday February 14, 2022 @03:16PM (#30337662)
Firefox promises all these things, but I think that by and large the problem is that it just doesn't deliver on them for the average person. And average person is how we get the market share and safety in numbers.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y... by godelski on Monday February 14, 2022 @05:17PM (#30339159)
FF definitely offers more privacy for the average person when compared to Chrome. I'm not sure what you're talking about. That normal people don't care? Well that's why I said the conversation about "products" was fine for the average person but not here on HN where we're experts and there's more nuance.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y... by StillBored on Monday February 14, 2022 @10:54PM (#30342596)
Right, I've never walked by my computer at midnight to discover its awake and hammering the disk scanning everything that's installed on my machines like chrome does.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y... by hackerfromthefu on Monday February 14, 2022 @04:39PM (#30338745)
Legislation is the answer for privacy. The tech ship has long sailed to the point that invasive stalking is 'too cheap to meter'.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y... by godelski on Monday February 14, 2022 @05:15PM (#30339145)
You're right, but neither can we wait for legislation to be passed. So attack this problem from multiple fronts. And even after legislation is passed that doesn't solve the second problem of centralization.