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Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y... by selfhoster11 on Monday February 14, 2022 @02:29PM (#30337004)
I use Firefox. Not exclusively, but most of the time, on principle.

I would call it usable, but not "very usable". For normal people, Chrome(ium) UX is better. For power users, Vivaldi is a far better choice despite the Chromium browser engine. And for both of these groups, Firefox UX worsens and improves seemingly at random.

Quite frankly, I'm conflicted whether I should recommend Firefox at all. If I say "look, here's Firefox! It's more private than Chrome, and almost as fast and error-free!", and then Mozilla goes on to ruin that perception 6 months later (as they are wont to do), then it's my reputation and credibility at stake. Not only is that an unnecessary ego hit, but also makes me look like a liar (or at best, like an ivory tower dweller divorced from reality).

Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y... by feanaro on Monday February 14, 2022 @02:50PM (#30337300)
> I would call it usable, but not "very usable". For normal people, Chrome(ium) UX is better.

I can't imagine why you would say this. Could you point out some concrete examples of better UX?

Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y... by selfhoster11 on Monday February 14, 2022 @03:20PM (#30337705)
The hamburger menu, for one. It's extremely unintuitive. Not the fact that it uses a hamburger icon, but that even simple things like accessing the full list of my bookmarks involve multiple clicks. If you know the keyboard shortcuts then it's not a problem, but I want common UI items to be accessible from the UI.

Besides that, the UI is just sluggish a lot of the time. It feels that Chrome(ium) has a far better latency response.

Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y... by feanaro on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @03:25AM (#30344017)
But isn't accessing bookmarks exactly the same in Chrome(ium)?

Firefox: 1. Hamburger menu > 2. Bookmarks > 3. Manage bookmarks Chrome(ium): 1. Three-dot menu > 2. Bookmarks > 3. Bookmark manager

In both cases you get a list of bookmarks on step 2 and you get a full, searchable, editable view in step 3. The global shortcut for the third step is the same in both (ctrl + shift + o).