Dino 0.3: Video calls and conferences – encrypted and peer-to-peer

Re:Dino 0.3: Video calls and conferences – encrypted and pee... by puggsy on Saturday February 12, 2022 @06:03PM (#30317266)

Great! Dino is my XMPP client of choice, it's good to see a new release.

My partner and family use https://quicksy.im/ which is an XMPP client that uses their phone number as username, to give it a "convenient as WhatsApp/Signal" feel.

I run the mobile UI branch https://github.com/dino/dino/tree/feature/handy on my Pinephone.

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Re:Dino 0.3: Video calls and conferences – encrypted and pee... by nicoco on Sunday February 13, 2022 @03:42AM (#30320293)

Hey! I am considering buying a pinephone but fear I am not enough of a hacker, an XMPP is one of the few things I need in my pocket computer. How hard is it to get Dino working on the pinephone? Do A/V calls work?

Any general feedback on the pinephone? Is it your main smartphone?

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Re:Dino 0.3: Video calls and conferences – encrypted and pee... by puggsy on Sunday February 13, 2022 @04:24AM (#30320482)

The master branch as Dino is not suitable for mobile use, since its UI doesn't scale down. The feature/handy branch is needed.

I haven't seen A/V calls working, but I know compatibility is being worked on. Audio calls will work before video calls.

The Pinephone is a breath of fresh air, but it's not yet ready for casual use by techies.

Pinephone is too slow to be my main phone. I'm looking forward to Pinephone Pro, which is fast enough, being able to reliably sleep.

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Re:Dino 0.3: Video calls and conferences – encrypted and pee... by ryukafalz on Sunday February 13, 2022 @07:53AM (#30321409)

Even aside from speed, the original PinePhone isn't exactly usable if you want to use an XMPP client like this. It gets decent battery life by sleeping, but while it's asleep it'll stop receiving messages via XMPP, which... if that's your primary communication method, is not ideal.

I desperately want to daily drive a Linux phone again, but the current batch just isn't there yet.

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Re:Dino 0.3: Video calls and conferences – encrypted and pee... by nicoco on Sunday February 13, 2022 @08:16AM (#30321558)

>while it's asleep it'll stop receiving messages via XMPP

Isn't there any API (? or something) for apps to run in "minimal" mode, to wake up the phone when needed? Does this also mean that it's not possible to have the phone notify you when you receive an email in sleep mode?

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Re:Dino 0.3: Video calls and conferences – encrypted and pee... by ryukafalz on Sunday February 13, 2022 @10:39AM (#30322376)

> Isn't there any API (? or something) for apps to run in "minimal" mode, to wake up the phone when needed?

Ubuntu Touch is the only distro that has a mechanism like this, and my understanding is it doesn't run that well on the PinePhone. The rest will wake up for an incoming call or SMS, but otherwise will stay asleep.

> Does this also mean that it's not possible to have the phone notify you when you receive an email in sleep mode?

Currently, AFAIK, yes.

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Re:Dino 0.3: Video calls and conferences – encrypted and pee... by voltagex_ on Sunday February 13, 2022 @08:03AM (#30321481)

Come on now, it hasn't been there since the OpenMoko, even the N900 wasn't great compared to say the N95.

I have pretty much given up on the idea of running an "open source phone", unfortunately.

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