There was an unexpected 40% increase in ‘all cause deaths’ in 2021

Re:There was an unexpected 40% increase in ‘all cause deaths... by torstenvl on Friday February 11, 2022 @10:01AM (#30302208)

Let me know when you can engage without making personal attacks. I'm interested in discussing the science and policy, not having a flamewar.

> No vaccine has ever had adverse reactions that don't show up for over a year.

The OP is about adverse events in a timeline less than a year from the availability of the vaccines. Whether there's any link is an open question.

> There isn't even a mechanism through which that is possible

That is patently false. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1116914/

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Re:There was an unexpected 40% increase in ‘all cause deaths... by shlant on Saturday February 12, 2022 @12:26AM (#30310208)

> That is patently false. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1116914/

are you serious? your evidence is an article from 1999 written by an anti-vaxxer[1] that references a study he funded? Just reading that article you can tell by the language that the guy clearly has a narrative he is pushing.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Bart_Classen

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Re:There was an unexpected 40% increase in ‘all cause deaths... by shlant on Friday February 11, 2022 @10:12AM (#30302325)

> "Whether there's any link is an open question."

The link has to be shown to be causal and we have a lot of data (more than any other vaccines in history) that is showing the vaccines to be very safe. If all you have is narratives spun around raw data that was never meant to show causality, then you don't have an argument. Provide high quality, peer reviewed research.

> "That is patently false."

Describe the mechanism

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