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Re:Turbine “torture” for Greek islanders as wind farms proli... by theshrike79 on Friday February 11, 2022 @08:52AM (#30301470)
Infrasounds are weird. They are hard to measure correctly with off the shelf equipment that's usually used for noise complaints and they affect people very differently.

Some people don't notice a constant infrasound at all, others start getting a "dreamy" feeling and a constant feeling of ... something weird. Both of which are really hard to quantify and measure.

There are even studies that kinda sorta link "haunting" with sources of infrasound.

Re:Turbine “torture” for Greek islanders as wind farms proli... by PretzelPirate on Friday February 11, 2022 @09:16AM (#30301714)
I really wish this article included a recording of the sounds. I have no idea what they sound like and if it would bother me.

I personally love the look of wind farms, but maybe the noise would make me equally as upset as the people in the article.

Re:Turbine “torture” for Greek islanders as wind farms proli... by theshrike79 on Friday February 11, 2022 @11:11AM (#30303074)
It's like tinnitus. It's bearable when you get a mild case from a concert and then it goes away.

But when it sticks and you're at your second decade of 24/7 eeeeeeeeeee in your ear, at times it gets to you really bad and you just want to claw your eardrums off.

Re:Turbine “torture” for Greek islanders as wind farms proli... by jdsully on Friday February 11, 2022 @01:33PM (#30305239)
I got it as a teenager from a cycling accident. It took me 20 years before I was finally able to say to myself "I'm fine with this". It did happen though, and for anyone else suffering it can get easier to deal with given time.
Re:Turbine “torture” for Greek islanders as wind farms proli... by mdp2021 on Saturday February 12, 2022 @04:06AM (#30311231)
> It took me 20 years before I was finally able to say to myself "I'm fine with this"

This should be enough to enlighten all those who think that "noise is not an issue".

> and for anyone else suffering it can get easier to deal with given time

Unfortunately, no. It may «get easier to deal with given time» - it's not granted, seeing the history of some sufferers.

Re:Turbine “torture” for Greek islanders as wind farms proli... by mdp2021 on Friday February 11, 2022 @09:31AM (#30301882)
> would make me equally as upset

You may be unable to tell in advance. There comes a point in which you break and what was "not even perceived", not just "tolerable", before, becomes unbearable later.

You have to consider the constant exposure, and the fluctuation of your resistance, and consider the effect of the burden in the times of lower resistance. The issue is not with the stress of the weight lifted when you are vigorous, but that which will be when you will be weak.

Re:Turbine “torture” for Greek islanders as wind farms proli... by goodpoint on Friday February 11, 2022 @09:21AM (#30301774)
Here's a video with a recording of sound intensity of wind generators (not infrasounds tho)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKgN2G9d0dc

Re:Turbine “torture” for Greek islanders as wind farms proli... by goodpoint on Friday February 11, 2022 @09:51AM (#30302103)
An infrasound at 1Hz is essentially a puff of air every second. Open and close a door in a small room and you'll get a pretty strong one.

If it was inherently harmful we wouldn't be able to open a window on any windy day.

Or perhaps there's something hypnotic due to the frequency being so constant?

Re:Turbine “torture” for Greek islanders as wind farms proli... by theshrike79 on Friday February 11, 2022 @11:16AM (#30303158)
Wind doesn't pulse at exactly 1Hz for weeks, it also doesn't carry the same frequency over tens of kilometers. [0]

It's easy to handle anything for a while, like a crying child during a 30 minute bus ride. But when the same noise is extended over a 14 hour flight with no way to escape, you'll start to feel it.

Some people handle auditory interruptions better than others. Infrasound, to my knowledge, hasn't been really studied in a cross-field type of way. It's always just engineers doing measurements with meters and drawing graphs. There are very few studies on the psychological effects of man-made infrasound.

[0] https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/201...