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Re:Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act by tagoregrtst on Friday February 11, 2022 @08:35AM (#30301275)
Get off your high horse.

This is a long term international effort where irrelevant Western countries in the peripheries (that’s the EU) have nibbled away at encryption protections to make it easier for the US to do the same. It’s part of a two decades long effort by Western elites to correct their mistakes from the nineties - namely loosening the noose on information and privacy.

Australia, France, UK all have draconian laws that would cause outrage (or are outright unconstitutional) in the US. The only data protection the EU has is because fussy Eurocrats are annoyed that the US (and not them) get to syphon all of European’s data.

The US is really flawed, but I wouldn't move back to the EU for double my family’s income.

Re:Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act by peoplefromibiza on Friday February 11, 2022 @11:03AM (#30302974)
> Australia, France, UK all have draconian laws that would cause outrage (or are outright unconstitutional) in the US

at least in those countries you don't have to resign for what you do in your bedroom, consensually, behind closed doors...

> The only data protection the EU has is because fussy Eurocrats are annoyed that the US (and not them) get to syphon all of European’s data.

[Citation needed]

this comes up every single time, but it's false nonetheless.

The term "eurocrats" in Europe is used in a negative way only by people who don't understand how EU works, usually from far right.

Nowadays the term Eurocrat has come to encompass staff from all EU Institutions and not only staff from the European Commission.

Although the term Eurocrat might convey negative connotations for some, specialists of European Union and its institutions Didier Georgagakakis and Jay Rowell use the concept of Eurocracy as a way to describe and analyse EU actors and professionals interactions [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocrat

Re:Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act by tagoregrtst on Friday February 11, 2022 @01:16PM (#30304973)
“ at least in those countries you don't have to resign for what you do in your bedroom, consensually, behind closed doors...”

No, you go to jail instead for offending someone. But you still have a job to pay off your court debts with (the US, thankfully, doesn’t have looser pays courts).

As to the rest of your comment, I love it. Any criticism of the EU or Brussels is far right extremism and must be ignored. Its working out great for Trudeau smearing protestors and ignoring them.

Re:Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act by peoplefromibiza on Friday February 11, 2022 @02:18PM (#30305811)
> No, you go to jail instead for offending someone

It's pretty hard to believe it.

Can you point me to some example ?

Is it what happened to you?

Are you sure it was just an offense?

In which country did it happen?

> Any criticism of the EU or Brussels is far right extremism and must be ignored

I was addressing the wording.

Far right movements in Europe use the same slogans, they are pretty easy to spot, because they are the same in any European language.

Re:Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act by tagoregrtst on Friday February 11, 2022 @11:41PM (#30309994)
Italy, apologia of fascism

https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologia_del_fascismo

Austria apologia of national socialism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verbotsgesetz_1947

Germany’s the same

Finland two years for tweeting a picture of the bible:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60111140

Baltics passed similar laws for communist symbols (so no Che shirts in Vilnus!)

These are all laws against offending someone’s sensibilities. And I could go on, I haven’t even mentioned the UK!

Now, apologia of fascists and commies is unwise. But in the US it is constitutionally protected.

Re:Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act by eeronen on Monday February 14, 2022 @08:10AM (#30331559)
"two years for tweeting a picture of the bible"

That's a bit of a oversimplification. What she was prosecuted (not convicted) on was definitely not a just a simple picture of the bible. Besides, that's only one of the charges. Other charges come from the times she implied homosexuality to be a genetic degeneration and later on called homosexuality a disorder.

Also, two years of jail is the maximum for that type of crime. IF she is found guilty, she will almost definitely get some relatively small fine.

It's understandable the christian folks want to paint this whole case as just "two years for tweeting a picture of a bible". But it's much more nuanced than that. Additionally the trial is still ongoing and it's very much unclear what the outcome will be. And this case is still handled in district court, I highly doubt it stays on that level. There's a lot of analysis and comments of the trials in the newspapers, but they are all in Finnish. I found this one in English that explains the case a bit better than "two years for tweeting a picture of the bible". https://yle.fi/news/3-12284380

Re:Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act by CRConrad on Sunday February 13, 2022 @06:01PM (#30326464)
Calling hate speech and attempts to reintroduce an ideology that sank a continent into war and killed millions a bland "offending someone" is so obviously bullshit that it's a marvel to me how you could write that without disintegrating into a puddle of shame.

Or maybe you did -- do you, at long last, have some sense of decency left?

Re:Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act by tagoregrtst on Sunday February 13, 2022 @06:48PM (#30326831)
And you have the gall to call Orban an authoritarian.
Re:Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act by CRConrad on Monday February 14, 2022 @11:33AM (#30334016)
What's more remarkable is that you have the gall to claim he's anything else.
Re:Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act by disgruntledphd2 on Friday February 11, 2022 @09:53AM (#30302124)
> The US is really flawed, but I wouldn't move back to the EU for double my family’s income.

Which of the 27(8) countries did you live in, as they are rather different?

Re:Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act by tagoregrtst on Friday February 11, 2022 @01:01PM (#30304750)
I speak three European languages at native level (Im ESL. Or is it ETL?) and can get along well enough in a fourth. I have the luxury of choice.

And my problem isn't with Europeans, that is Englishmen, Ukrainians, Russians, or normal people in the EU. My problem is with Europes’ (note the plural, this isn't merely about the EU) institutions, the way they think, the mentality of what a person can do.

At no point in the past two years was I prohibited under the yoke of arrest of going outside. My kids never stopped going to school except for the first two months. My kids don’t have to do security theater or wear masks. No law can, or does, limit my speech. If I had the misfortune of living in a bad neighborhood the law protects my right to defend myself against an intruder.

On the whole, pick any EU country and they all failed on those accounts. Maybe Czechia or Hungary are cool on some of the above.

Re:Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act by CRConrad on Saturday February 12, 2022 @06:06PM (#30317283)
>> Which of the 27(8) countries did you live in, as they are rather different?

> I speak three European languages at native level

Way not to answer the question.

Also, BTW, you're probably wrong: Very high proficiency, maybe, but almost nobody speaks more than one language (or at the most, two) at a native level. But, sorry, I digress... To get back to the point:

Way not to answer the question.

Re:Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act by tagoregrtst on Sunday February 13, 2022 @11:33AM (#30322922)
Most don't learn three (and a half) languages by age 11 and use all three often. When I speak any of the three, locals think Im a native speaker and readily spot in what region I learned the language (if they’re good, the town). In any of the three I can also spot where the speaker is from and I can pronounce all the subtle sounds that give foreigners away. Sounds that even natives cant pronounce since they are not universally present in regional dialects.

Anyway, I didn't answer the question because what’s the point? I wouldn't live in Germany, or in Latvia, or in Spain, or in Greece for the reasons stated: restrictions on speech, blasphemy laws, anti-apologia of tyranny laws (commie or facist), laws effectively criminalizing self-defence. I also enjoy the self reliance of Americans; yes its exaggerated, but its more than Europeans anyway.

Ive flirted with Switzerland, but that’s not the EU per my original comment (I wouldn't live in CH either. Love ’em though)

Re:Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act by gman83 on Friday February 11, 2022 @07:08PM (#30308601)
Many US states have ongoing school indoor mask mandates. Also Czechia and Hungary are the two European countries most at risk of backsliding from democracy into authoritarianism.
Re:Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act by tagoregrtst on Friday February 11, 2022 @11:31PM (#30309962)
I’ve lived in Cali. I wont make that mistake again.

Czechia and Hungary sliding sliding into authoritarianism? Please. That just not serious.

Re:Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act by CRConrad on Saturday February 12, 2022 @06:08PM (#30317304)
Well, no, sure: At least Hungary probably isn't "sliding into" authoritarianism. Any more.
Re:Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act by shitgoose on Friday February 11, 2022 @07:34PM (#30308779)
The rest of EU is already there
Re:Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act by DyslexicAtheist on Friday February 11, 2022 @10:38AM (#30302641)
the problem with being an immigrant, and I have seen this on myself, is that we tend to see the host country through rose colored glasses (best case). Or if we are from a poor / unprivileged background we've been put through hell by trying to survive in the new country. And in the latter case it results in (worst case) those groups becoming the most extreme defenders of whatever that country does. That gets then compounded by having to defend your old customs (from your origin society) even that origin society has meanwhile moved on.

The person who just moved to a new place is very unlikely to speak ill of their new hosts or join an activist group to fight against what is a local issue. It's generally a bad idea to poop where you eat but it's unthinkable when you consider yourself still a guest in that country. The whole thing takes generations usually.

Re:Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act by tagoregrtst on Friday February 11, 2022 @01:07PM (#30304846)
Agreed, its very common. But this doesn’t apply to me. Allow me to explain:

I lived in four different countries across three continents seven different times by age 15. Throughout, middle class. Leaving Europe for Canada as a teen was extremely difficult. I still love Europe the place and Europe the people.

Finally, I moved to the US from Canada - hardly polar opposites - and was reared on a diet of anti-Americanism that took ten years to shed.

I didn't dream of coming to the US, the best grad program that I got accepted to was in the US. I didn’t want to stay, I got married. I came to love the US kicking and screaming.