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Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by dragonwriter on Thursday February 10, 2022 @01:55PM (#30290791)
> Regulation mixed with "operating more freely" is oxymoronic

Common regulation between jurisdictions allows businesses subjected to the regulatory oversight of multiple involve jurisdictions to operate more freely than if the jurisdictions did not coordinate and instead adopted regulations where it was impossible to comply with one without violating the other.

You shouldn't just pick one word from one part of a statement and a two-word phrase in another part and ignore the rest of the statement in order to create your own argument to respond to.

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by chaostheory on Thursday February 10, 2022 @04:39PM (#30293034)
You’re just cherry picking an even worse example of regulation. The core definition of regulation is the limitation of what an entity can and cannot do ie operating less freely. Your argument doesn’t change that
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by dragonwriter on Thursday February 10, 2022 @05:11PM (#30293411)
> You’re just cherry picking an even worse example of regulation

No, I’m pointing to the exact subject of discussion, the suggestion that the US and EU, who currently do regulate and do so independently, could coordinate regulation.

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by chaostheory on Thursday February 10, 2022 @08:23PM (#30295551)
Yes, that's the overall discussion, but that's not this specific sub-thread is about. This subthread was about addressing the strange, oxymoronic doublespeak being used by someone responding to one of my comments. Maybe you meant to respond to a different comment?
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by munk-a on Thursday February 10, 2022 @08:39PM (#30295684)
It actually isn't oxymoronic though - I like being alive and my freedom to remain alive relies on the regulations and laws that discourage people from murdering me. Regulations aren't the opposite of freedom except in an extremely narrow view - regulations often help to make free markets more free.

This isn't a case of doublespeak at all - it's just that the world isn't a simple place.

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by chaostheory on Thursday February 10, 2022 @09:08PM (#30295932)
This is not a "all regulations are bad or all regulations are good" argument. This is about an oxymoronic statement. I feel that you and previous commenter have trouble differentiating the two.

> regulations often help to make free markets more free.

No. They do not. That's nonsensical. The whole point of regulation is to exert control over something for better or for worse, depending on the situation. That's the exact opposite of freedom regardless of the consequences.

Your analogy is poor because it doesn't mirror the original quote. A better analogy that mirrored the original quote would be, "We need to murder people in order to save their lives." It makes about as much Orwellian sense as saying, "There's freedom in slavery."

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by dragonwriter on Thursday February 10, 2022 @09:17PM (#30296004)
> Yes, that's the overall discussion, but that's not this specific sub-thread is about.

I’m specifically addressing how the statement which branched this sub thread off was, itself, a non-sequitur to the statement it pretended to rebut.

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by chaostheory on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:46PM (#30296665)
It’s not a non sequitur. It’s a response to a nonsensical argument ie “regulation makes markets more free” It’s oxymoronic.

There are many good arguments in favor of regulation, but that is not one of them, despite all the mental gymnastics being done to pretend that it’s a good argument.