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Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by AndrewDucker on Thursday February 10, 2022 @09:36AM (#30286551)
Nothing to do with warrants. And this was done by the highest level of EU courts, overriding the commission (which allowed data to be transferred)

The decision is here: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?uri=CELEX:62...

And it's all about warrantless surveillance.

"As regards the limits on intelligence activities, the referring court emphasises the fact that non-US persons are covered only by PPD‑28, which merely states that intelligence activities should be ‘as tailored as feasible’. On the basis of those findings, the referring court considers that the United States carries out mass processing of personal data without ensuring a level of protection essentially equivalent to that guaranteed by Articles 7 and 8 of the Charter."

and

"As regards judicial protection, the referring court states that EU citizens do not have the same remedies as US citizens in respect of the processing of personal data by the US authorities, since the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which constitutes, in United States law, the most important cause of action available to challenge unlawful surveillance, does not apply to EU citizens."

So, basically, the US security services can hoover up data about EU citizens, and those EU citizens aren't allowed any legal redress about it. Which, unsurprisingly, they aren't okay with.

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by viro on Thursday February 10, 2022 @09:42AM (#30286686)
> So, basically, the US security services can hoover up data about EU citizens, and those EU citizens aren't allowed any legal redress about it. Which, unsurprisingly, they aren't okay with.

Nothing about this stops that. Like I said to the other person this is protectionism. Requiring every US-based tech company to duplicate its infrastructure in the EU, Which in turn gives EU competitors an unfair advantage.

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by jen20 on Thursday February 10, 2022 @09:21AM (#30286320)
The argument is not that Google shouldn't hand over data with a warrant if it resides in an appropriate jurisdiction. The argument is that Google shouldn't have the data in that jurisdiction to hand over in the first place unless an individual user has given consent for that.
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by viro on Thursday February 10, 2022 @09:36AM (#30286567)
Why should every US tech company be expected to duplicate its infrastructure in the EU? Google isn't special, this applies to EVERY US-based competitor to GA. This gives EU competitors an unfair advantage.... and that's the real point.
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by jen20 on Thursday February 10, 2022 @11:46AM (#30288840)
Because the US cannot implement reasonable privacy laws that give basic safeguards to personal information expected by EU citizens (or even UK citizens).

If anything, EU competitors to Google Analytics are at a _disadvantage_ because they can't apply the same lassaiz-faire techniques for US-based customers that US-based companies get away with.

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Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by jen20 on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:08PM (#30296385)
> I understand how you could think we are since we seem to pay your military budgets for free.

I live in America.

> It's protectionism because your tech industry sucks.

I work for a FAANG, in America. "My" tech industry is doing fine, thank you very much. Nice try though.