Re:The data are clear: The boys are not all right
by itronitron on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @06:40PM
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You mention a lot of statistics. If there is a point you wanted to make could you clarify it?
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Re:The data are clear: The boys are not all right
by rayiner on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @08:10PM
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I stated the point in the beginning of the paragraph in which I cited the statistics:
> Counterintuitively, America’s lack of a generous welfare system tends to destabilize traditional gender roles.
Re:The data are clear: The boys are not all right
by symlinkk on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @07:07PM
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That traditional gender roles are good for society
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Re:The data are clear: The boys are not all right
by zozbot234 on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @08:10PM
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Gender roles are driven by more than just religion or tradition. It's not clear that they're good for society (if anything, open societies which don't coercively enforce these norms tend to be more creative and innovative) but what they are is good enough for the many, many people, including women (might even be a majority) who prefer them. Any ideal of freedom of choice for all genders should absolutely include these 'old-fashioned' choices.
Re:The data are clear: The boys are not all right
by rayiner on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @08:19PM
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I suspect it’s a coupled system—tradition and religion both shape and reflect preferences. I think it’s bad for society when women have gender roles forced on them. But I think it’s also possible—especially for the self-selecting group of highly educated people who tend to think and write about these issues—to overlook how many women would simply rather take care of their kids, at least while they’re young, compared to the work they’re qualified to do.