News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s ... by ethbr0 on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @01:23PM (#30276171)
Just because the 84-year-old Sen. Hatch (who retired in 2019) asked a dumb question doesn't mean there aren't smart people in government. (Edit: Although I might have been misreading your ad model sentence as the above)

If explainability is a problem (e.g. "We don't know why our algorithm recommends higher-interest rate loan products to African Americans"), then that's a rabbit hole that needs to have funding put towards digging up as well.

Re:TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s ... by beardedetim on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @01:41PM (#30276530)
> doesn't mean there aren't smart people in government.

agreed and I was flippant to make a point. I did not mean to say there aren't smart people in government. But I would venture to say that people who understand ML/AI are _not_ working in the government. Or put more correctly, the _odds_ of a person working in government being up to date on how LSTM works today is such a low number, that I would be fair to say it is extremely unlikely that anyone on any board would be smarter than Sen Hatch _in this domain_.

> then that's a rabbit hole that needs to have funding put towards digging up as well.

Agreed and is the larger point I was trying to make: we currently, no matter how smart you are, have _any_ way of knowing what your "algorithm" is doing. Or if you do, it's a rule-based system and isn't AI/ML. We should though! And I think pursuing that will give us much higher rate of return than our black-box strategy everyone seems to be using.

Re:TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s ... by chrischen on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @02:44PM (#30277429)
The government can retain its own experts for opinions, just like how in court they can get expert testimony rather than relying on the judge or jury to know and decide all.
Re:TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s ... by wolverine876 on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @06:55PM (#30280577)
Many government agencies use AI/ML heavily. It's possible that the US Dept of Defense spends more on AI than any other institution in the world.