Re:Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy
by mannykannot on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @10:21AM
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This issue is indeed trivial, but I don't know how, in general, we are going to achieve mutual understanding without establishing an agreed-upon semantics.
Re:Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy
by GavinMcG on Thursday February 10, 2022 @11:27AM
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It's not possible to fix a particular semantics outside a particular time and context, and certainly not possible to do so in general.
Here, as soon as someone recognizes that the amount of energy cited is way higher or lower than would be implied by their own definition, they should 1) identify the difference ("Boil here means 'boil n kettles dry' rather than 'bring n kettles to boil'") and 2) in most cases, avoid the wasted debate by adopting the other person's language if further conversation using the concept is needed.
Re:Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy
by mannykannot on Thursday February 10, 2022 @11:12PM
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Indeed - so it is clear what one should do here, which is to begin by assuming the author is adopting a well-established meaning within the relevant context. For this, we have a couple of clues: one is British English usage, given that this is a press release from a British laboratory, and the other is that there is a meaning in which the calculation works out correctly.
In the light of this, what is your objection to my comment? As far as I can tell, it is in conformance with your numbered principles.
Re:Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy
by GavinMcG on Friday February 11, 2022 @03:04PM
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Saying "X is indisputably the accepted and intended meaning of the phrase wherever English is spoken" is not in conformance with those principles at all.
Re:Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy
by mannykannot on Saturday February 12, 2022 @10:41AM
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There appears to be a certain irony in how, in your rather sanctimonious posts here, you seem to have generally failed to act in accordance with the very principles that you accuse me of violating.
It's also an incredible waste of time to argue over definitions. They're always disputable because they always arise in response to two people using a word differently. Maybe they're wrong and you're right, or maybe others also use the word that way—it doesn't matter. Humility and aiming at mutual understanding is far more worthwhile.