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Re:You can change your number by thaumasiotes on Monday February 07, 2022 @10:23PM (#30254566)
> Edit: Lots of people are saying you can't share contact without revealing your identity. Does a 1-click link not solve this issue? If I post a signal.me/#one-time-code/jdjkerfe2r3rfwseffre5ge5g then I don't see how that would reveal my identity.

Well, if you're under attack, the 1-click link will reveal your identity to the first person to click on the link. But that's entirely different from what you're asking for, which is to reveal your identity to a specific person designated by yourself, regardless of who sees your link first.

The reason people are telling you you can't reveal your identity while staying anonymous is that those are opposite concepts. But if you're not trying to preserve your anonymity against the same person you want to reveal your identity to, you're on the much simpler problem of communicating in a way that is resistant to eavesdroppers. You don't need anything from Signal; you need an encrypted channel of communication with your counterparty.

Re:You can change your number by godelski on Monday February 07, 2022 @11:05PM (#30254800)
> Well, if you're under attack, the 1-click link will reveal your identity to the first person to click on the link.

That's true, but much easier to defend against. Since you can talk in a semi-synchronous manner and we can have a high _probability_ that the correct person will be be the one clicking on the link.

So if it works:

Godelski: Hey, let's chat on Signal, my link is signal.me/#one-time-code/jdjkerfe2r3rfwseffre5ge5g

Thaumasiotes: Great!

If it doesn't work:

Godelski: Hey, let's chat on Signal, my link is signal.me/#one-time-code/jdjkerfe2r3rfwseffre5ge5g

Thaumasiotes: Hey, link seems bad

While you're right that there are no guarantees, I don't think that's true for any system. There's only probabilities. Obviously there are other ways to do this along the same lines. I can have a global link that has infinite links (e.g. one I could place under my HN profile) that I can only have there. These strings are much easier to generate than usernames given that with higher entropy you don't have the same likelihood of a birthday clash.

I'm not saying that communicating without revealing your identity isn't a challenging problem. But there are clearly some versions that reveal _more_ than others. Maybe there's no perfect system (I'm not smart enough to know) but there's clearly better ones than others. Standard usernames seems to just be throwing your hands up and giving up.

> you're on the much simpler problem of communicating in a way that is resistant to eavesdroppers

We already have that. It's called E2EE.

Re:You can change your number by thaumasiotes on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @01:02AM (#30255377)
> If it doesn't work:

> Godelski: Hey, let's chat on Signal, my link is signal.me/#one-time-code/jdjkerfe2r3rfwseffre5ge5g

> Thaumasiotes: Hey, link seems bad

Sure, that interaction degraded gracefully. But your identity was also permanently compromised; it doesn't make sense to focus on how easy it was for me to say "hey, that didn't work". The reason the link went bad is that you disclosed your identity to someone you were specifically trying to keep it a secret from. This is an unforgivable flaw in the protocol.

>> you're on the much simpler problem of communicating in a way that is resistant to eavesdroppers

> We already have that. It's called E2EE.

Well, no. E2EE is the answer to resisting one particular eavesdropper. What you're trying to get at is called "public key cryptography", the system whereby two strangers can establish a secure channel without relying on an already-existing secure channel. E2EE has nothing to say about establishing secure channels; it just refers to the concept of using one.

Here's the system you actually want:

Godelski: Hey, let's chat on Signal, what's your PGP public key?.

Thaumasiotes: My PGP key is yyyyy.

Godelski: [encrypted for yyyyy: Here's how you can find me on Signal]

But notice that Signal doesn't participate in this exchange. Nor can it. I'm not on Signal, as far as you know; your messages to me have to use some other medium.

Re:You can change your number by godelski on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @02:00AM (#30255661)
> But your identity was also permanently compromised;

Only if I accepted the request. Clicking the link would presumably act the same way as a contact that you don't know. It asks before you accept. So I can wait till you respond.