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Re:This app does not support the App Store’s private and sec... by causi on Monday February 07, 2022 @09:10AM (#30245052)
Apple would not let them charge one price for App Store payments and another price for external payments.
Re:This app does not support the App Store’s private and sec... by scarface74 on Monday February 07, 2022 @09:49AM (#30245569)
Spotify did exactly this before they abandoned in app purchases. I believe Google does this for YouTube Premium.

Apple did have that policy for less than a year over 10 years ago.

Re:This app does not support the App Store’s private and sec... by dessant on Monday February 07, 2022 @09:18AM (#30245149)
A store cannot dictate how much you charge for a product at a different retailer, and they have no right to interfere with your business activity, and the agreements you have with a different distributor.
Re:This app does not support the App Store’s private and sec... by goblin89 on Monday February 07, 2022 @09:45AM (#30245519)
> A store cannot dictate how much you charge for a product at a different retailer

Isn’t this exactly what is happening everywhere you see “we price match!” or “low price guarantee”?

Platforms can and do require sellers to provide the lowest price, and take whatever measures including offing violators from the platform if this means they suffer losses every time a buyer does their research.

Not even mentioning exclusivity clauses, which are very much legal and very much dictate your relationship with other distributors.

I’m not saying Apple is doing that, but there are so many precedents that I doubt this practice is illegal.

> they have no right to interfere with your business activity

If you choose to do business with them, they are literally taking part in your business activity. No one made you sign the contract (presumably you have done so in expectation of benefitting from the platform, which would attract users to you since its owner develops products that users want). Calling this “interference” is nonsensical.

Re:This app does not support the App Store’s private and sec... by colejohnson66 on Monday February 07, 2022 @09:57AM (#30245668)
Nitpick: "We price match" is a store voluntarily taking a price cut for their customers. The other store "dictates" the price, but the first one can always end the sale if they wish.
Re:This app does not support the App Store’s private and sec... by goblin89 on Monday February 07, 2022 @10:07AM (#30245801)
Wouldn’t this open such a platform to scams where a friend of the seller gets discounts by pointing to seller’s site with super-low prices?

I’m not saying they do not take a cut voluntarily, but they must take measures if this happens too often with a particular seller.

Re:This app does not support the App Store’s private and sec... by colejohnson66 on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @11:23AM (#30260336)
Usually those ads have some fine print saying that their own terms of refusing a sale for whatever reason still apply. So if Store A is taking a loss on sales to force Store B to sell for cheaper, Store B can still refuse to sell you the product. "We price match" only applies if a sale actually goes to completion.
Re:This app does not support the App Store’s private and sec... by goblin89 on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @05:19AM (#30271034)
Not sure I get your point.

Imagine store A is a platform like Booking.com, and store B is seller’s site. There is a complaint every day to store A that store B sells cheaper. Store A charges the customer less but pays the seller the same, taking a loss.

Meanwhile, it turns out that those customers are friends of the seller, to whom the seller compensates the transaction plus some extra on top.

Re:This app does not support the App Store’s private and sec... by Diggsey on Monday February 07, 2022 @09:26AM (#30245258)
Apple can and does do this.
Re:This app does not support the App Store’s private and sec... by dessant on Monday February 07, 2022 @09:36AM (#30245403)
Products on the App Store can be sold at a different price, companies often do this to recoup some of that 30% App Store commission.

Edit: this is a fact, though feel free to downvote. Apple tries to hide this from the user by not letting publishers mention that the app or service is cheaper when purchased outside of the App Store or Mac App Store.

Re:This app does not support the App Store’s private and sec... by causi on Monday February 07, 2022 @10:09AM (#30245833)
I must be misunderstanding this. Since Apple doesn't support sideloading, how is any product offered both on the App Store and somewhere else, let alone for a different price?
Re:This app does not support the App Store’s private and sec... by dessant on Monday February 07, 2022 @11:14AM (#30246783)
Some apps are sold for a different price on the App Store and the Mac App Store, than if you'd buy it directly from the developer or a store on a different platform. On iOS you can obviously only buy an app on the App Store, with some exceptions.
Re:This app does not support the App Store’s private and sec... by scarface74 on Monday February 07, 2022 @11:10AM (#30246725)
You can buy subscriptions outside of the App Store and still use the app.
Re:This app does not support the App Store’s private and sec... by pwinnski on Monday February 07, 2022 @11:32AM (#30247095)
That is not true, at least in the US.