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Re:What’s so hard about understanding consciousness? by visarga on Friday February 04, 2022 @03:04PM (#30212222)
"Who is the observer" is not consistent. Maybe "what part of myself is the observer".
Re:What’s so hard about understanding consciousness? by GonzaloRizzo on Friday February 04, 2022 @03:21PM (#30212514)
who is the observer who is observing myself?
Re:What’s so hard about understanding consciousness? by visarga on Friday February 04, 2022 @03:45PM (#30212907)
Let's try to replace "who" with "computer". Who is the computer that observes itself? all of them. A computer is not passive, a brain is not passive. It can observe itself. In other words, the parts communicate.
Re:What’s so hard about understanding consciousness? by neosat on Friday February 04, 2022 @06:43PM (#30215153)
The whole point is, that's not an obviously valid replacement in the context of consciousness. What's your definition of "passive"?
Re:What’s so hard about understanding consciousness? by PaulDavisThe1st on Friday February 04, 2022 @05:42PM (#30214456)
A city is not passive. The parts communicate. Is there consciousness there?
Re:What’s so hard about understanding consciousness? by visarga on Friday February 04, 2022 @06:32PM (#30215038)
Maybe it is. It's a self replicator, a culture and technology preserver, a competitor in the race for resources.

I think much of what we think is human intelligence is actually crystalized intelligence in the form of language and tools. We got them by default, as citizens of our city.