Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story
by allochthon on Friday February 04, 2022 @03:35PM
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I'm curious why these practices continue despite what seem to be obvious deficiencies.
Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story
by mistyislands on Friday February 04, 2022 @03:37PM
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hard to say. probably the people who are high enough to make any change are too removed from the action to see the problems. maybe stories like this going viral will change things (companies do anything these days to avoid bad PR).
Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story
by steveBK123 on Friday February 04, 2022 @03:53PM
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As soon as the C Suite has the same PIP / stack rank / % attrition forced, the policy will be ended.
I honestly had never even thought about where in the org it stops... But seriously, no CEO team would cut 10% of their executive committee each year. It would be a sign that they don't know how to properly vet candidates, and be terrible for morale and turnover...
Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story
by randomfool on Friday February 04, 2022 @11:02PM
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VP level often has fairly high turnover, maybe that's where this originates from.
In my experience at the VP level you have many highly skilled reports who are gunning for your job. Once you get the VP job then there may be many more enticing opportunities at other companies with just tough competition in the current position.
Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story
by aspenmayer on Friday February 04, 2022 @04:12PM
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Why stop at C suite? Stack rank the board of directors too for good measure, and do it by shareholder vote of confidence.
Stack rank the board of directors too for good measure
The only time stack ranking was a force for good was when the French applied it to their ruling elite in the 1790s.
I guess this was meant as a joke, but you may want to read about the reign of Terror and how it led people from all social classes to rat each other out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror
See also how people had to get a "certificate of civism" lest them be considered suspect by default: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_of_civism
It continues because we live under capitalism and the upper class wants to divide working people amongst themselves at all levels, because it keeps them on top. It really is that simple.
URA?
Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story
by mistyislands on Friday February 04, 2022 @04:15PM
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UnRegretted Attrition.
Managers don't like to put people into Focus or Pivot (unless the employee is absolutely terrible, which is rare). But we all have URA quotas to fill, mandated by HR.
This is absolutely terrible for team cohesion and morale; while also being the largest source of friction and inefficiency.