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Re:Tell HN: There’s no room for skunkworks in modern softwar... by 00000000005 on Friday February 04, 2022 @05:52AM (#30205212)
The message however is this: An organized software development process kills innovation

That’s true for startups as well as big companies.

A company of four people could have a dead software process just because it’s super organized, with jira, tickets, sprints, user stories, CI/CD, testing deployment and monitoring.

The more organized your software process, the more dead it is, in terms of creativity and innovation.

Re:Tell HN: There’s no room for skunkworks in modern softwar... by w_t_payne on Friday February 04, 2022 @06:27AM (#30205454)
I fundamentally disagree. It's entirely a matter of how that process is manifested and the impact it has on the psychology of team members.

A good process can be empowering. It's just that 98%~ish of processes are not good.

Re:Tell HN: There’s no room for skunkworks in modern softwar... by salawat on Friday February 04, 2022 @08:48AM (#30206704)
Bullshit. You don't scale without process and people being able to make safe assumptions about what's going on elsewhere. Process is what enables your maintainers to plug into never before seen code and handle it as just another piece in reasonable time.

You're coming off as someone whose never had to coordinate a large number of people to deliver anything concurrently before.

Re:Tell HN: There’s no room for skunkworks in modern softwar... by beecafe on Friday February 04, 2022 @08:50AM (#30206724)
You're making the same point - liveness, dynamism, unprediability is at odds with scale. Scaling is a tradeoff against agility.