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Re:Wormhole confirms all $320M in funds have been restored by arcticbull on Thursday February 03, 2022 @03:20PM (#30198232)
You can tell them all you want, but as Japan shows us, it doesn't actually matter. What matters is what you do with the supply which is why we measure.
Re:Wormhole confirms all $320M in funds have been restored by thaumasiotes on Thursday February 03, 2022 @03:24PM (#30198281)
Let's focus on the opening question, "how has the supply increased in this scenario?".
Re:Wormhole confirms all $320M in funds have been restored by arcticbull on Thursday February 03, 2022 @03:45PM (#30198561)
I'm sorry I don't understand the question.

Are you asking how supply works in my hypothetical, simplified example where the point I'm trying to make is that new supply in isolation doesn't matter - what you do with it does?

Or as you asking how it happens in the real-world example of Japan, where their supply increased from 400000B JPY to 1200000B JPY between 1990 and present, while everything remained the same price? And how this is seriously problematic in their economy?

Re:Wormhole confirms all $320M in funds have been restored by thaumasiotes on Thursday February 03, 2022 @09:05PM (#30201926)
You claimed that minting a coin with face value $10T increased the money supply. I'm saying this is not true, because that coin cannot be spent and therefore doesn't contribute to the money supply. It doesn't matter what you write on the coin.

What matters isn't what you do with "money"; it's what you can do with it.

Re:Wormhole confirms all $320M in funds have been restored by arcticbull on Thursday February 03, 2022 @09:44PM (#30202164)
Again, Japan proves you wrong and me right because they 3X'd their money supply and prices stayed exactly the same for 30 years in real and notional terms. Austrian economics does not explain that. Which is why we don't use it.
Re:Wormhole confirms all $320M in funds have been restored by thaumasiotes on Friday February 04, 2022 @12:14AM (#30203150)
Tripling the money supply cuts the value of money by a factor of three. Without any exceptions. There is no other possible outcome. That's not even an Austrian idea.

But there are other things that affect the value of money. Tripling the money supply and seeing the value of money stay constant tells you that something else was pulling the value of the yen up at the same time that additional supply was pulling it down.

Re:Wormhole confirms all $320M in funds have been restored by arcticbull on Sunday February 06, 2022 @05:40PM (#30237785)
> Tripling the money supply cuts the value of money by a factor of three. Without any exceptions. There is no other possible outcome. That's not even an Austrian idea.

This is not true, though, haha.

Which is why the Austrian model, which only takes into account the former, is obviously and woefully incomplete - and has been rejected.