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Re:In second largest DeFi hack, Blockchain Bridge loses $320... by mattwilsonn888 on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @10:39PM (#30188282)
Get rid of 'store of value,' 'decentralization,' 'smart contracts' and all that's left is a ledger. Its really not that complex or special - if that's what fascinates you then you can just as easily approach the topic from the examples of traditional credit or even the history of semi-arbitrary currencies.

If your implication is that the only thing backing crypto currencies is an expectation of reciprocation then you are mistaken. The qualities you want to hand waive away, and most importantly (though often trivialized), is the inability to roll back the chain which is a function of "consensus power." Consensus power simply quantifies the cost of rolling back x blocks. Bitcoin currently has the highest cost to roll back blocks and therefore the most assurance.

Re:In second largest DeFi hack, Blockchain Bridge loses $320... by RC_ITR on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @11:11PM (#30188553)
You’re saying things that are true but don’t really make sense.

The history of transactions has no importance to the value currency. A dollar that was stolen is just as valuable as any other because they are bearer bonds (like most currencies).

The whole Immutable thing is just translating the concept of a bearer bond to digital space, nothing to do with its intrinsic value.

Re:In second largest DeFi hack, Blockchain Bridge loses $320... by mattwilsonn888 on Thursday February 03, 2022 @12:18AM (#30188983)
What is "the value currency" supposed to mean?
Re:In second largest DeFi hack, Blockchain Bridge loses $320... by JumpCrisscross on Thursday February 03, 2022 @01:00AM (#30189208)
> What is "the value currency" supposed to mean?

People are willing to trade their labour and opportunity cost for entries on this ledger.

Re:In second largest DeFi hack, Blockchain Bridge loses $320... by nootropicat on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @11:31PM (#30188699)
>Bitcoin currently has the highest cost to roll back blocks and therefore the most assurance.

This is false. Ethereum has higher block rewards (in $) for over a year now. Bitcoin is the second biggest PoW network by mining expenditure.

Re:In second largest DeFi hack, Blockchain Bridge loses $320... by SmooL on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @11:42PM (#30188782)
The "cost to rollback blocks" is a cost in computational power (to run a 51% attack), _not_ the cost of the block rewards
Re:In second largest DeFi hack, Blockchain Bridge loses $320... by jallen_dot_dev on Thursday February 03, 2022 @12:01AM (#30188909)
In theory a higher block reward will incentivize and allow for greater computational power to be thrown at it, thereby increasing the cost to attack it.
Re:In second largest DeFi hack, Blockchain Bridge loses $320... by nootropicat on Thursday February 03, 2022 @03:26AM (#30190052)
The only way to measure that is by looking at expense over longer timescales.
Re:In second largest DeFi hack, Blockchain Bridge loses $320... by tromp on Thursday February 03, 2022 @03:59AM (#30190297)
https://www.f2pool.com/coins shows Bitcoin on top in daily dollar issuance. Ethereum was on top a few months ago, but not for over a year.
Re:In second largest DeFi hack, Blockchain Bridge loses $320... by nootropicat on Thursday February 03, 2022 @09:19AM (#30192697)
That appears to not include fees.

https://bitinfocharts.com/

Ethereum ($38,451,803.7)

Bitcoin ($34,875,489.84)

Before EIP 1559 fees were much more important. Ethereum has higher rewards since about Q3 2020

edit: even worse, f2pool just multiplies the base reward (2 eth) - ignoring uncle rewards and fees, by the wrong number of blocks (based on 15 sec block time - it's actually 13.2s). Trash calculation.

Re:In second largest DeFi hack, Blockchain Bridge loses $320... by tromp on Thursday February 03, 2022 @10:25AM (#30193583)
Thanks for the correction. Is there a site providing historic graphs of daily miner revenue?
Re:In second largest DeFi hack, Blockchain Bridge loses $320... by yobbo on Thursday February 03, 2022 @07:44AM (#30191726)
> the only thing backing crypto currencies is an expectation

This is, however, true regardless. The value of cryptocurrencies are measured in USD, and it is expectations of this future valuation that backs up the current price.

The only way to make it more certain than expectations, would be by some sort of government decree.

Re:In second largest DeFi hack, Blockchain Bridge loses $320... by antocv on Thursday February 03, 2022 @03:49AM (#30190217)
"Bitcoin currently has the highest cost to roll back blocks and therefore the most assurance."

Bitcoin was rolled back at the cost of sending out emails several times.