Normalized crash data shows Autopilot is much less safe than Tesla claims

Re:Normalized crash data shows Autopilot is much less safe t... by aspenmayer on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @03:32PM (#30183619)

> Does that mean that expectation is all automated cars will go exactly the speed limit on the left lane of North American superhighways?

It’s already against road rules to stay in the passing lane when cars behind wish to pass, regardless of the speed limit, or if you’re already driving at it. If cars behind desire to overtake, give way. This is already codified. No need to blame the cars or the self-driving tech. It’s the human driver who bears responsibility for what the car does or doesn’t do, as are the only ones able to countermand the autopilot. Blaming Tesla for any of that seems like dogpiling and behind the point.

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Re:Normalized crash data shows Autopilot is much less safe t... by hedora on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @05:46PM (#30185215)

Not in California. Left lane fast, right lane slow isn't the law, and you can pass in whatever lane you'd like.

Studies show that, adjusted for congestion and weather, SF Bay Area drivers have some of the highest accidents per mile in the country.

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Re:Normalized crash data shows Autopilot is much less safe t... by kergonath on Thursday February 03, 2022 @02:20AM (#30189662)

> Not in California. Left lane fast, right lane slow isn't the law, and you can pass in whatever lane you'd like.

That sounds really unsafe and surely must make driving much more stressful than it needs to be.

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Re:Normalized crash data shows Autopilot is much less safe t... by NikolaNovak on Thursday February 03, 2022 @08:17AM (#30192010)

Seriously? That feels unpredictable and stressful, whereas I feel driving should be as predictable as possible.

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Re:Normalized crash data shows Autopilot is much less safe t... by sokoloff on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @05:01PM (#30184688)

That depends on the jurisdiction. In my state (MA), I can use the left lane while passing other traffic even if there is traffic behind me who wishes to go faster than I am.

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Re:Normalized crash data shows Autopilot is much less safe t... by aspenmayer on Friday February 04, 2022 @10:46PM (#30217031)

I don’t think that is contrary to my point or what I was trying to say. The left lane is for passing cars in the right lane, and for turning left across traffic in cases with no middle turning lane. The left lane is not meant for driving. I don’t think this varies by jurisdiction and may not be a regulation per se, it’s just the norms and rules of the road.

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