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Re:The web starts on page four by eitland on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @12:40PM (#30180954)
> Google with all of their cash in the bank and talented engineers can't even crack the problem.

Don't forget that Linux became only possible because 20 years of OS research was carefully studied, analyzed, discussed and thrown away.

Ingo Molnar

From a message to the Linux Kernel mailing list in 1999.

Re:The web starts on page four by shepherdjerred on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @12:46PM (#30181058)
Can you explain? Was there a competitor to Linux that never surfaced?
Re:The web starts on page four by pdonis on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @01:29PM (#30181732)
I wonder if it was a veiled reference to the debate between Linus and Andrew Tanenbaum, who wrote MINIX based on OS research that, according to him, showed that microkernels are better than monolithic kernels.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanenbaum%E2%80%93Torvalds_deb...

Re:The web starts on page four by sam_bristow on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @05:56PM (#30185357)
In a funny twist of history MINIX is running at ring -3 on most modern Intel CPUs. So it's probably running on more desktops than MacOS or Linux.
Re:The web starts on page four by monetus on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @02:24PM (#30182664)
what is the ratio between dynamic and static content amongst say the top100 web sites on the web? Can we say 0% static pages? [yes, i accept Dean Gaudet's point that webpages can be split up into dynamic and static parts, probably that will be the future.]

This is delightful

Re:The web starts on page four by quotehelp9128 on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @01:03PM (#30181350)
Here's the mailing list entry referenced: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/9906.0/0746.html
Re:The web starts on page four by eitland on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @04:22PM (#30184239)
My point was that as a newcomer in either operating systems (Linux late last century) or a new search engine (Marginalia, Kagi) you cannot always win by repeating the same stuff incumbents do.

Especially not when the incumbents are busy digging deeper holes.

Re:The web starts on page four by marginalia_nu on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @07:09PM (#30186327)
Yeah I'm very much betting on the null hypothesis when it comes to fancy machine learning-based methods and implementing the most bog-standard keyword search you could imagine.

It's not perfect, but it's scary how well it works sometimes.

Re:The web starts on page four by fuzzer37 on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @01:13PM (#30181513)
I assume they're talking about all the OS research done at places like XEROX and Bell Labs that never really came to fruition, but formed the basis for modern OS's.