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Re:The web starts on page four by skeeter2020 on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @12:29PM (#30180768)
How does that reconcile with google results getting worse over time then, with worse defined as relevancy vs. profit motives? With UI changes that de-emphasize the results and promote the ads? With pulling in cursory summarizes to keep you on a google property and isntead of qucily & easily getting you to the definitive source?

There is lots of support for assuming the worst of google in this case.

Re:The web starts on page four by notriddle on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @12:44PM (#30181024)
Because it's not just Google. Every web search engine has been getting worse; it's why Google remains "the best" in every head-to-head comparison. The whole web has been getting harder to search.
Re:The web starts on page four by eitland on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @05:12PM (#30184825)
I thought this too.

Then I found Kagi last year who manages to exeed my expectations, proving that my original assumption is correct:

It is still possible to provide good results today, Google just fails at it.

I'm not saying it is easy. But it is possible.

(Extra interesting: Kagi builds on Google and Bing, two engines that drive me crazy, yet Kagi manages to be great!)

Re:The web starts on page four by marginalia_nu on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @01:02PM (#30181339)
With a few small exceptions, every search engine uses either Google or Bing-data.