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Re:Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imag... by irthomasthomas on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @10:59AM (#30179335)
FSD will never work for ordinary cars in cities. But it may be good enough for self driving tanks fighting in WW4 - AD2050

That is really the only scenario where the high collateral damage won't matter.

  "We didn't know we where training kill-bots"
Re:Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imag... by vageli on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @12:43PM (#30181008)
> "We didn't know we where training kill-bots"

We knew all along. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA_Grand_Challenge_(2004)

Re:Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imag... by avs733 on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @11:58AM (#30180230)
Personal opinion...FSD won't work within the existing paradigm largely because driving is a social experience not purely a technical one. It could, and should, be made to work in CONCERT with infrastructure changes to enable and support it. All new roads should be built with systems in place to help FSD cars succeed. Infrastructure spending should be used to help fix and redesign and systematize areas where FSD cars are likely to struggle...largely (to my mind) because doing so will also improve things like pedestrian safety.
Re:Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imag... by JaimeThompson on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @01:24PM (#30181657)
I think musk would fight that as he, as of late, seems to be against such subsidies and assistance that would help firms not Tesla.
Re:Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imag... by avs733 on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @05:06PM (#30184743)
what Musk wants/will do is largely irrelevant to the eventual success of self driving vehicles. pardon the use of his pet acronym FSD but what will make the technology, not Tesla, successful is a build environment that a car can interact with more reliably as well as a car that can interrogate the built environment more effectively.

Both are important. A long range RFID tag in every road sign means I don't need a camera to read it, and it can't fail in snow. Magnetic nails[1] in the highway that can aid with high speed lane positioning information absolutely beats the camera on my Volvo that struggles to see white lines when driving into the sun.

[1] https://trid.trb.org/view/574206

Re:Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imag... by bagels on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @01:17PM (#30181562)
The cruise control does not even work in these cars.