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Re:Why Henry III's gold penny failed by kasey_junk on Monday January 31, 2022 @04:33PM (#30154759)
The US penny is pegged to be 1/100 US dollars and it is force of law that prevents large scale arbitrage of the form in this article.

I’m not sure if you count the penny (or any other US coin) as “successful” or not, but that peg has not led to calamitous money outcomes for the US currency system.

Re:Why Henry III's gold penny failed by JoeAltmaier on Monday January 31, 2022 @04:46PM (#30154948)
When copper got more valueable, US pennies got melted down. We had to re-mint billions of them in aluminum (electroplated copper to look reddish).
Re:Why Henry III's gold penny failed by kasey_junk on Monday January 31, 2022 @04:57PM (#30155121)
The zinc majority penny has been more valuable than 1c several times since it was introduced. It was a big story in 2005/2006 as zinc prices surged. Yet there wasn’t large scale arbitrage of this in large part because it was illegal and comes with hefty fines.

It’s also due to the difference not being worth the effort most of the time but that doesn’t change the refutation of the claim that no pegs work. The penny peg works even in a world where the actual utility of a 1/100th usd coin is probably negative.

Re:Why Henry III's gold penny failed by JoeAltmaier on Monday January 31, 2022 @05:08PM (#30155283)
FWIW You can't conterfeit coins, but you can deface them as I understand it. They're not protected - just currency (folding money).
Re:Why Henry III's gold penny failed by nkurz on Monday January 31, 2022 @05:29PM (#30155600)
This is generally true, but I think you might be out of date. About 15 years ago, the US government passed a law that specifically prohibited the melting of pennies and nickels for the purpose of selling the materials for profit:

§ 82.1 Prohibitions. Except as specifically authorized by the Secretary of the Treasury (or designee) or as otherwise provided in this part, no person shall export, melt, or treat: (a) Any 5-cent coin of the United States; or (b) Any one-cent coin of the United States.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/31/82.1.

Click "next" on that link for the special exceptions, which do allow for modifying small amounts of these for jewelry or decoration.

Re:Why Henry III's gold penny failed by zenithd on Monday January 31, 2022 @04:39PM (#30154846)
> it is force of law that prevents large scale arbitrage of the form in this article.

This is actually exactly analogous; many people don't realize that the status quo of "multiple denominations" have ancestral ties to bimetallic currencies of the sort covered in this article.

It would have been difficult for Henry III to de facto outlaw smelting of gold coins because the scale of the gold penny's distribution was much smaller (making attribution of a smelting operation much harder), and because the ability to surveil this sort of activity was severely limited by geography.

But melting down US pennies is de jure illegal (nb: only since 2007 [1]) and the number of pennies you'd need to smelt down in order to justify the effort would probably make the sourcing operation noticeable to authorities.

[1] https://www.usmint.gov/news/press-releases/20061214-united-s...