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Re:One more small step toward the right to software repair by progbits on Sunday January 30, 2022 @03:38AM (#30135100)
The problem is that most people who would need and benefit of those changes don't have the time or skill to make them themselves. So being able to share and distribute the modified version is an absolute bare minimum for the right to repair.
Re:One more small step toward the right to software repair by noduerme on Sunday January 30, 2022 @05:39AM (#30135686)
Hiring your own people to branch and maintain the software for your own purposes is not "distribution". If you're a company relying on software you don't own, and you need it to do something different, you can hire coders to maintain it in your direction. That's totally different from reselling it.
Re:One more small step toward the right to software repair by pabs3 on Sunday January 30, 2022 @05:51AM (#30135759)
When the people you are hiring are an external contractor, that probably counts as distribution though.
Re:One more small step toward the right to software repair by 7steps2much on Sunday January 30, 2022 @06:03AM (#30135845)
It only counts as distribution if you give it to them and they start using the software as well.

If you send them the software, they reverse engineer it and fix bugs that's not distribution.

If you send it to them, they fix bugs and then start using it themselves that is distribution.

Re:One more small step toward the right to software repair by noduerme on Sunday January 30, 2022 @05:57AM (#30135794)
No, I don't think so. If the company has the right to edit the code, then it can contract that out. If someone paid the company to clone or use the code, that would be distribution.
Re:One more small step toward the right to software repair by pabs3 on Sunday January 30, 2022 @06:02AM (#30135839)
From the FSF's GPL FAQ:

However, when the organization transfers copies to other organizations or individuals, that is distribution. In particular, providing copies to contractors for use off-site is distribution.

https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#InternalDistributi...

Re:One more small step toward the right to software repair by noduerme on Sunday January 30, 2022 @06:28AM (#30136061)
For use off-site. Hiring a programmer off-site to maintain it isn't "use". Giving it to someone to use in a productive way in furtherance of your business or in exchange for money would be "use".
Re:One more small step toward the right to software repair by Jiro on Sunday January 30, 2022 @11:18AM (#30138447)
Distribution matters because it triggers legal consequences--you need a license to distribute. The FSF can't rewrite the law. So they can't say "doing X is distribution" and then claim that doing X requires a license.

So whether the FSF calls something distribution in their own FAQ is irrelevant, unless the FSF is your lawyer and giving you legal advice.

Re:One more small step toward the right to software repair by denton-scratch on Sunday January 30, 2022 @11:36AM (#30138578)
Quite. Being allowed to fix the OS yourself, but not share the result, is like being allowed to fix your car yourself, but being forbidden to set up business as a mechanic-for-hire.

I used to be able to fix a Morris Minor; but I wouldn't dream of trying to fix anything but the bodywork on a modern car.

Re:One more small step toward the right to software repair by White_Wolf on Sunday January 30, 2022 @04:04AM (#30135210)
You made me wonder if sharing a patcher that modifies the program files would be legal under the EU law.
Re:One more small step toward the right to software repair by noduerme on Sunday January 30, 2022 @05:40AM (#30135689)
IANAL but sharing the patcher probably wouldn't be. Sharing the code it patched, or a patched version of that code, would be piracy.
Re:One more small step toward the right to software repair by Mystlix on Sunday January 30, 2022 @04:12AM (#30135241)
Sorry, what farmer has the ability to repair a design problem in an engine? In reality the vast majority of fixes are just temporary patches using materials that quickly degrade and need to be constantly replaced.
Re:One more small step toward the right to software repair by Robotbeat on Sunday January 30, 2022 @08:35AM (#30137039)
More than you think. Farmers often know how to weld, etc.