People don't work as much as they say

Re:People don't work as much as they say by ahelwer on Saturday January 29, 2022 @11:08AM (#30127399)

If you want that then hire someone to stand outside your office with a stick and reply rudely to emails. We don't need to give them hiring/firing/promotion/rewards authority.

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Re:People don't work as much as they say by BigRedDog1669 on Saturday January 29, 2022 @03:46PM (#30130249)

As an IC you can't tell other teams managers or higher ups or PMs to fuck off if they call you directly and tell you they think what you are doing isn't good. Or if they ask for unreasonable stuff. At least without fear of getting fired. A manager needs to prevent this from happening

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Re:People don't work as much as they say by ahelwer on Saturday January 29, 2022 @04:02PM (#30130412)

So the problem managers solve is the problem of there being other managers?

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Re:People don't work as much as they say by sciprojguy on Sunday January 30, 2022 @12:24PM (#30139033)

Don't forget sales/marketing overpromisers and nosy executives who get in the developers' hair.

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Re:People don't work as much as they say by gompertz on Monday January 31, 2022 @12:29AM (#30144871)

Completely alarming this comment is being down voted. It's 100% true.

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Re:People don't work as much as they say by labawi on Monday January 31, 2022 @12:48PM (#30151210)

I guess it depends on what the person is doing. A guy with a stick won't be negotiating timelines and requirements, explaining why things can't / won't / weren't done, dealing with fallout or shifting the requirements / timelines of others based on teams productivity.

Do they need to be the one with hiring/firing/promotion/rewards authority? I don't know.

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