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Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by matheusmoreira on Friday January 28, 2022 @07:49AM (#30113913)
No. False positives in the justice system are never acceptable. Even a single case will undermine faith in the entire system.

If you want to persecute chinese scientists, you can't do it under the guise of justice and expect people to take the justice system seriously afterwards. Getting arrested over bureaucratic nonsense like failing to disclose some affiliation? That's some 1984 stuff.

Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by thfuran on Friday January 28, 2022 @08:13AM (#30114149)
>No. False positives in the justice system are never acceptable. Even a single case will undermine faith in the entire system.

What you replied to is ridiculous, but so is this. At scale, false positives are inevitable. The only way to ensure no false positives is to never convict anyone. And false negatives also undermine faith in the justice system.

Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by gspr on Friday January 28, 2022 @08:38AM (#30114391)
> At scale, false positives are inevitable.

Perhaps, but they should be treated as grave mistakes and heaven and earth should be moved to attempt to avoid them.

Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by throwaway0a5e on Friday January 28, 2022 @09:15AM (#30114804)
>Getting arrested over bureaucratic nonsense like failing to disclose some affiliation? That's some 1984 stuff.

People routinely cheer when the bureaucratic gotcha is being applied to someone they don't like. People gleefully cite the Al Capone prosecution for example.

Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by ekianjo on Friday January 28, 2022 @08:13AM (#30114150)
> No. False positives in the justice system are never acceptable

Welcome to human systems. Expecting 100% rigor is never going to happen.