In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist

Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by teh_klev on Friday January 28, 2022 @07:46AM (#30113895)

> were the affiliations unremarkable and not reportable but prosecutors screwed up?

Yes, the prosecutors royally screwed up.

From the article:

"Prosecutors had floated the idea of a deferred prosecution agreement, which would have allowed him to return to work and apply for government grants in the future. In return, said his lawyer, Mr. Fisher, he would have to admit to having some ties to China, none of them a violation of the law."

So why would Chen have to declare them if they aren't illegal?

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Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by ping333pong on Friday January 28, 2022 @08:00AM (#30114002)

Chen has to declare foreign conflicts of interest if he takes federal grants.

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Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by perihelions on Friday January 28, 2022 @10:45AM (#30116046)

There was no such legal requirement on this grant.

>"What tipped the scale, the people said, was an interview by prosecutors this month of a senior Energy Department official who is considered an authority on what disclosures are material on grant forms. The official confirmed that the 2017 form did not require disclosures of Chen’s ties to the technology university or other Chinese government organizations and programs, one person said"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/mit-gang-ch...

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Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by pverghese on Friday January 28, 2022 @08:06AM (#30114073)

The prosecution themselves have said that there was no reporting requirement for that.

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Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by ping333pong on Friday January 28, 2022 @08:28AM (#30114276)

I got my initial understanding of the reg. from an article on Charles Lieber’s case, which boiled them down to “must report conflicts of interest.” The reality (https://grants.nih.gov/grants/policy/coi/index.htm) is more nuanced and up to the courts to decide, but as a one sentence summary I think it’s fair.

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Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by DocTomoe on Friday January 28, 2022 @07:59AM (#30113992)

Sounds like a prosecutor was afraid to get sued into oblivion/have his future political ambitions ruined by this affair, and strong-armed the good doctor into signing a document to avoid this going to court, where outcomes are pretty much random.

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Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by jhugo on Friday January 28, 2022 @08:16AM (#30114175)

* tried to strong-arm. He didn't accept the deal.

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Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by hollerith on Friday January 28, 2022 @03:21PM (#30119812)

>Sounds like a prosecutor was afraid to get sued into oblivion

Federal prosecutors cannot be sued:

https://fedsoc.org/events/prosecutorial-immunity

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Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by 908B64B197 on Friday January 28, 2022 @12:58PM (#30118105)

> he would have to admit to having some ties to China, none of them a violation of the law.

What's the point?

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