Re:Taiwan is not Ukraine: Stop linking their fates
by dragonwriter on Thursday January 27, 2022 @07:05PM
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> you're exclusively pissed at Americans for assurances outside of a legal framework
...that didn't happen anyway and are propaganda that exists only to support the Russia violation of their actual treaty with Ukraine.
Re:Taiwan is not Ukraine: Stop linking their fates
by pydry on Thursday January 27, 2022 @05:58PM
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The expansion of NATO came first in 97- at a point when Russia was militarily at its weakest, and a drunk American puppet was in charge.
Crimea would likely still belong to Ukraine if NATO hadnt done that - eastern europe being a buffer being the presumption built into the negotiations. There was some trust before. There is none now.
As it was, the pushback on NATO against the vulnerable, much invaded western border once Russia recovered economic and military strength was inevitable.
As inevitable as the NATO invasion and occupation of Afghanistan when in 2001 the Taliban dared to request evidence and a trial while Americans bayed for blood.
Re:Taiwan is not Ukraine: Stop linking their fates
by felipelemos on Thursday January 27, 2022 @06:52PM
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> Crimea would likely still belong to Ukraine if NATO hadnt done that - [...]
Shifting the blame to a third party is a very biased way of see this.
Russia isn't even holding to an actual legal treaty about respecting the sovereign territorial integrity of Ukraine and you're exclusively pissed at Americans for assurances outside of a legal framework?