Re:Yammer Wins TechCrunch50
by hooande on Thursday September 11, 2008 @12:39AM
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TechCrunch50 isn't really a competition, it's a series of product demos. This is kind of like presenting the philosophies of different religions and then voting on which one is the "best". The whole thing is subjective and there is absolutely no need to declare a winner, especially when the market will ultimately decide. This is exactly why YCombinator doesn't have investors vote on which company "won" Demo Day. I pity our american idol society that always wants a panel of judges to tell them what to like.
As for Yammer itself, I'm thoroughly unimpressed. At the least they could have made it look different than twitter. They even copied the UI. There were so many companies doing truly innovative things... TechCrunch50 seems like a total farce.
Re:Yammer Wins TechCrunch50
by mannylee1 on Wednesday September 10, 2008 @11:18PM
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I don't get it. No matter how you spin it Yammer is just a Twitter for businesses. Companies like GoodGuide and Swype were much more deserving of the grand prize.
Re:Yammer Wins TechCrunch50
by webwright on Thursday September 11, 2008 @02:07AM
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Startup success isn't about product innovation.
Google was yet another search engine. iPod was yet another MP3 player. Doing something better (or for the right audience) is often what it takes.
That being said.... I dunno if Yammer captures the motivation for USERS to "yam" (tweet?). I can see why people use twitter. I can see why businesses would want Yammer. But I can't see why business employees would want to use Yammer.
Re:Yammer Wins TechCrunch50
by tlrobinson on Wednesday September 10, 2008 @11:48PM
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It seems so obvious, yet Twitter has been around for a several years now and no one has done it yet.
I do think there were other "cooler" companies, but this could be huge. Right now Twitter mostly consists of a relatively small group of web/tech people. Just like what happened with Facebook and colleges, if Yammer gets critical mass in a few big companies, it could explode.
Re:Yammer Wins TechCrunch50
by jmacd on Thursday September 11, 2008 @12:42AM
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Yammer is far from the first enterprise twitter app. Oracle, IBM and now SAP all even have versions in some form or another, and Prologue, the wordpress based one, has been around for almost a year.
Re:Yammer Wins TechCrunch50
by spencerfry on Thursday September 11, 2008 @12:05AM
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I agree with you that Yammer has the potential to be very huge. I'm not denying that. I'm just surprised with so many innovative minds making up the panel of judges that they didn't choose someone with more of an original idea. There's a great quote from the TechCrunch comments that says "Doesn't the Valley pride itself in innovation?"
Re:Yammer Wins TechCrunch50
by tonystubblebine on Wednesday September 10, 2008 @11:46PM
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What's wrong with being "just" something?
When Twitter launched people said it was "just" a place for people to post what they're eating and that it wasn't nearly as worthy as feature rich services that had come first (Upoc and Dodgeball).
Re:Yammer Wins TechCrunch50
by fallentimes on Thursday September 11, 2008 @12:45AM
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I'm very surprised. Fitbit was seriously the only one that I said to myself: "I really want that". And more importantly, I signed up to be emailed when it was out so I could _buy_ it.
Re:Yammer Wins TechCrunch50
by PStamatiou on Thursday September 11, 2008 @01:54AM
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it's not about that form of communication though. IM is sustained communication. yammer is about "working on the login form problem, ticket #241" so all coworkers know what everyone is doing. it's not 1:1
Re:Yammer Wins TechCrunch50
by vaksel on Thursday September 11, 2008 @10:16AM
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I doubt many companies will want all their insider knowledge on a hosted solution.
As far as black mailing them into using it? I doubt it...a corporation is much more likely to simply ban the site so that their insider knowledge instead of going through the process of signing up and entering their CC details
Re:Yammer Wins TechCrunch50
by sh1mmer on Thursday September 11, 2008 @03:04AM
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So I IM'd my buddy to say hi, and tell him that the company he works at got props by Daniel from Digg at the D.Construct conference. "Oh I don't do Geni any more, I'm working on another startup called Yammer"
Isn't life funny. I guess some people thing he's doing well. :)
Re:Yammer Wins TechCrunch50
by wheels on Wednesday September 10, 2008 @11:34PM
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I don't think the idea's all that bad. A friend of mine in the Berlin scene recently suggested something similar and I do in fact notice myself using Twitter these days to keep our 2.0-ish-customers and co-founder appraised of what I'm working on.
Re:Yammer Wins TechCrunch50
by soho on Thursday September 11, 2008 @08:08PM
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"Yammer was founded by former executives and early employees of PayPal, eGroups, eBay, and Tribe. It is backed by venture capital firms Founders Fund and Charles River Ventures."
Maybe it "won" because it has the PayPal mafia backing it...
Re:Yammer Wins TechCrunch50
by gabrielleydon on Thursday September 11, 2008 @05:47AM
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yeah it does sound like ididwork but I can see why TC went crazy for Yammer. Yammer sold its self as a communication tool while ididwork sold itself as a sort of Rescue Time/punch card/productivity tool.
In the end Yammer looks fun while ididwork looks scary.
As for Yammer itself, I'm thoroughly unimpressed. At the least they could have made it look different than twitter. They even copied the UI. There were so many companies doing truly innovative things... TechCrunch50 seems like a total farce.
s/50//.
Google was yet another search engine. iPod was yet another MP3 player. Doing something better (or for the right audience) is often what it takes.
That being said.... I dunno if Yammer captures the motivation for USERS to "yam" (tweet?). I can see why people use twitter. I can see why businesses would want Yammer. But I can't see why business employees would want to use Yammer.
Because not Yammer-ing enough will look bad at your performance review. Ah, I love the corporate world.
I do think there were other "cooler" companies, but this could be huge. Right now Twitter mostly consists of a relatively small group of web/tech people. Just like what happened with Facebook and colleges, if Yammer gets critical mass in a few big companies, it could explode.
When Twitter launched people said it was "just" a place for people to post what they're eating and that it wasn't nearly as worthy as feature rich services that had come first (Upoc and Dodgeball).
Maybe some companies will "claim" their names on the site, just to reserve their name.
http://en.blog.wordpress.com/2008/01/28/introducing-prologue...
Oh, and Backpack's status updates:
http://backpackit.com
I guess it's the packaging?
As far as black mailing them into using it? I doubt it...a corporation is much more likely to simply ban the site so that their insider knowledge instead of going through the process of signing up and entering their CC details
Isn't life funny. I guess some people thing he's doing well. :)
Maybe it "won" because it has the PayPal mafia backing it...
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/yammer-takes-techcrunch...
I'm using it now and I'm loving it.
In the end Yammer looks fun while ididwork looks scary.