Re:Tinyproj: A recap of Day One
by ido on Sunday September 18, 2011 @10:43AM
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I think it's a really great idea, but I was disappointed to see most of the offered project were really of the bottom-feeding sorts (many offered ~$100/day) as some here feared would happen.
I'm in Vienna (which is a much cheaper market than the US/UK/AUS) and even here I don't generally charge less than 300 euros a day (~$420) and received offers for as high as 500 euros/day (~$690) for contract work in the past.
I am sure the real pros who frequent HN charge a lot more than I do.
Programmers, don't sell yourself short! You are bringing down expectations and hurting all of us.
Re:Tinyproj: A recap of Day One
by kylebragger on Sunday September 18, 2011 @10:47AM
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Thanks for the feedback. I think part of the issue is that I'm asking folks to give project rates and durations, and it seems (based on the projects submitted thus far) that the duration ends up being a bit of a misnomer. I think a project rate of a few grand for a simple prototype is probably above board, but if you add an erroneous or poorly anticipated duration, it suddenly dilutes the rate into bottom feeder territory. Nonetheless, I'll be revamping some of this so it's much more clear. FWIW, I rejected more projects than I sent out.
Re:Tinyproj: A recap of Day One
by TuaAmin13 on Sunday September 18, 2011 @11:02AM
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I got the email, and I didn't take the "duration" as how long they wanted me to spend on it. I took it as more of a "When you start this, you should be done in X days because we want it by then."
Re:Tinyproj: A recap of Day One
by Luyt on Sunday September 18, 2011 @11:21AM
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I was amazed to read:
"Over 4,500 developers and designers, copywriters, and illustrators have signed up in the past few days, and the growth isn’t showing any signs of slowing down."
That's indeed an impressive response. I'm working on a webcam sideproject, and I also hope to get that amount of signups ;-)
Re:Tinyproj: A recap of Day One
by kylebragger on Sunday September 18, 2011 @11:27AM
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Thanks. It's really exciting to see that this struck a chord with so many people. Interestingly, most signups are devs or designers (or hybrids). Not that many (low 100s) for copywriters and illustrators. I may remove those as an option and just focus on dev/design if becomes clear that's where Tinyproj is heading.
I'm in Vienna (which is a much cheaper market than the US/UK/AUS) and even here I don't generally charge less than 300 euros a day (~$420) and received offers for as high as 500 euros/day (~$690) for contract work in the past.
I am sure the real pros who frequent HN charge a lot more than I do.
Programmers, don't sell yourself short! You are bringing down expectations and hurting all of us.
Should I have read it differently?
I can see many projects that are just a day or two of work, but where the company doesn't need it for a week.
Looking forward to seeing how this develops.
"Over 4,500 developers and designers, copywriters, and illustrators have signed up in the past few days, and the growth isn’t showing any signs of slowing down."
That's indeed an impressive response. I'm working on a webcam sideproject, and I also hope to get that amount of signups ;-)